BFBC2 and stutters

[biuro74]

Hi,

I'm curious if I can find ONE person who:

* has got Kepler (GTX 660 and up)
AND
* is playing BFBC2, HeavyMetal map online.

Strange enough, but I haven't found anyone with Kepler who plays BFBC2/HeavyMetal so far - I asked many times in chat window during playing.

What's that for ? Well, I experience stuttering on single (!) Kepler - GF660Ti which is very annoying, and sometimes doesn't allow to precise gaming.

I've described my issue few times, it's not place for repeating (yes, my CPU is not overheating, and is strong enough etc etc). Just believe me or not - no matter which settings I use, I've got stutterings in spite of having constant 60FPS :/ BFBC2 is one and only game that serves me such issues. BF3, Crysis2 etc = all look very fine.

My previous 2xGTX 460 SLI was MUCH BETTER (no stutterings AT ALL, and still constant 60 FPS), but I replaced them with single 660Ti as overall concept of better upgrade (which in fact is, in BF3, Crysis2 etc, but NOT BFBC2).

Second strange thing is I can record gameplay - and stutterings are visible in 60FPS recordings (nVidia ShadowPlay), but when I convert movie to 30FPS = stuttering is invisible. Gone. So I can't upload it to YT to ask anyone else.

I only want to find ONE person who is able to notice the same just to keep peace of mind Anybody ?

 

[biuro74]

Anyone ? :/

I've got stuttering chart that has been done during playing. It's a pity I didn't make one having old GTX460x2 in SLI. It's HeavyMetal:

And this is PortArica:

This is offline campaign:

For comparison, this is BF3 online:

.. and Crysis2:

 

[biuro74]

Thanks guys for advice.
I'd destroy an atmosphere and say the advice was not a subject of my topic I simply look for any person with Kepler and BFBC2 gaming - to confirm, or deny. That's it. So you can deduce I've got no o'c at all

 

[biuro74]

Wish I had picked it up when it was £1 on Origin, but wasn't at my PC at the time.

I've bought 3 DVDs on "popular auction site". One for me, second one because first disk has been scratched after some time, and 3rd for my son to play with him sometimes online So no excuse, they are cheap like chips

BTW, "stuttering" means no fluence in displaying video frames. FOr example, when you slowly go ahead nearby wall of the house - so you see moving background (not centre of screen) including this wall and you see small, short mini-jumps. Like some frames was displayed 2x longer, and then "next-next" frame has been displayed (not simple "next"). Stupid effect. 660Ti is capable of rendering 60FPS even with some double/triple buffering, but displaying is complete mess here. This is my personal failure that I've sold 2xFermi's (GTX 460) which displayed this game perfectly... thinking the 660Ti would be nice upgrade. Nice upgrade is seen in other games, but not BFBC2. Failure, failure, failure And shame for nVidia for lack of correct optimization in drivers, as I think in 99,9 %. Anyone to confirm this (and maybe some GPU Mist screenshot, please) ?

Or maybe someone else just playing the BFBC2/HeavyMetal map could do a GPU Mist screenshot how it's going with other card ? Thanks in advance

 

[biuro74]

disable hyper threading!

LOL, where ? In my i5 ?

Tried a reinstall of windows to ensure it's not a software problem?
Also, check your internet connection is up to scratch.

I'm starting to being rude, guys, because of you I told you twice I don't need advice.. Format c is for lamers who can't cope with own system anyway. My Windows, hardware and other settings are pretty fine as I'm troubleshooter myself from many years.

Is the HeavyMetal map part of a DLC or in the base game? I hardly played BFBC2 on PC

It doesn't matter as game updates itself and after that HeavyMetal is available (if it wasn't before). So it's free, it's available and is waiting for you online

 

[biuro74]

Well, no. Format C: is often the quickest way to resolve an issue (or at least rule out a software cause) rather than spend hours trying to work out what is going on, post on a forum for help and then ignore the advice of people that know better than you.

Keep on banging your head against the wall. I'm sure you'll find a solution eventually (which will be a software one almost certainly) and feel smug that you only spent a billion hours diagnosing and fixing it rather than an hour or so reinstalling windows.

Sorry, mate. 3 things
First: reinstalling Windows for me is not an hour. I've got multiboot PC with 8 OSes (yes, eight), and I've got 2 bootmenus (from MBR and EBR - old XP style and new Win 7 based, respectively). Coping with this is more than "one hour". And reinstalling all software I've got is next 2 days. And.. and... configuring all this stuff is next 2 days. For your information - there are people who don't have Win and few games on drive only. OK ?
Second: I'm in computer for 25+ yrs and my knowledge is really extensive. I'm troubleshooter as well and I resolve issues for others, OK ? So it's not simple ignoring "because ignoring" other's advice, but BASING on my knowledge & experience I know what's going on with such "advices" with LACK OF BACKGROUND what kind of hard- and software I've got. OK ?
Third: Summing this up. I repeat again. Reinstall is for some lamers who simply don't know what else to do (or what happened). I will NOT reinstall Windows if I don't know what happened with system. OK ?
I just wanted to save you reading such tyrades, but if you didn't want to listen... so read it now

So let me "banging my wall" as you said, but I kindly encourage you to READ what I WANT, before I really be mad, OK ? All I want - is to confirm, or deny: do people have such stutterings there, or not. With Kepler. That's all. Don't allow me to write with capitals (once again, unfortunately): I DON'T WANT ANY ADVICE. Sorry for making you feel uncomfortable, but read what I want It's not an ignorance, but experience. If I wrote I've done everything it means I've done everything, including checking with other Windows instance (clean) and game itself, too. So I wouldn't write NO ADVICE PLEASE if I didn't check it before, OK ? But it was nothing like "format helps, if everything else fails", but I had to reinstall Windows instance due to [old, long story] on my RAID volume, so ocassionally I've checked BFBC2 installing from a scratch, too.

I play BFBC2 on a mobile kepler chip (GT 640LE, OC'd to 890 core 960 mem, at 65C max), works flawlessly. Only thing I noticed is that it works better with dx9 vs dx11 (change it in system.ini). Try that if you haven't yet.

OK, what means "better" ? Faster, or less stuttering ?
If first - it's not important as 660Ti is capable of 60+ FPS with DX11.
If the second - it means, you still have got stutters. But less Would you be able to do GPU Mist chart, please ?

I dont have the same card but I had the same issues at the weekend

All I'm trying to ask is are you using Afterburner, if so try something else and see if that helps as your system is more then capable of running bc2

Also install Evilminds BFBC2 configurator and turn off HBAO / Bloom and Vsync off, could also try turning AA / AF off or lower to see if that helps

I run sometimes Afterburner, but it doesn't matter if it's enabled or disabled. Stutters anyway. Please, no advice, charts from other Kepler users might help Believe me - I've spent hours (if not days) for changing many multiple sets of options, including SSAA tool which became obsolete with few newest drivers, or underclocking everything possible. Have I to list all of my actions I took to make you stop advicing ? :/ Thanks for help, but it's useless as no help will help, I'm afraid. I strongly suspect driver's lack of optimization for this game for Kepler (6xx and up) and nothing/no one (except nVidia) could change it. Sorry for me, and for nVidia

 

[biuro74]

UPDATE

I've checked my son's Radeon 7850 - which is a card a bit weaker than 660Ti - but BFBC2 was playing MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE due to - let's say - no stutterings.* Now, playing this game was pleasure again, like with previous 2xGTX 460 in SLI.

GTX gives 10% microstutter time and 5% f-Rate degradation

but Radeon gives 2% and 0,7% (!!!) accordingly, so 5-8x times better.

Next thing - why GPUMist shows original framerate close to 59Hz ??? I can only presume it has something to do with my monitor overclocking trial in the past. But now I've got monitor which doesn't support 59 Hz refresh rate, so it's odd..

Everything is on the same PC (hardware). Surprisingly, it seems to be ONE game where stutters are higher on nVidia card (vide latest multiGPU comparison with 4 Titans vs 4 Radeons which I saw somewhere here).

Looks like system (Windows) with nVidia card handles interrupts much WORSE for some undefined reason:

Radeon:

And yes - I've disabled EIST, C states and onboard sound. I am using M-Audio Delta 2494 Audiophile as my audio, so no buil-in codecs here... I've checked it with X-Fi as well = the same.

*TBH: stutters appeared, but they were VERY, VERY RARE.

 

[biuro74]

Nope.
I have no caching. I've got SSD for system and 2xHDDs in RAID-0. DPC "issue" is not an audio issue as I have no cracklings (but I had them in my previous setup and it was main reason for platform change - to current one which was good for long time, until I've changed graphic cards from 2xGTX 460 SLI to single GTX 660Ti = and issue involves ONE AND ONLY game BFBC2).

 

[biuro74]

Yes, but it's not the point. Point is what I wrote.
Radeon works completely fine, so IntelISR routine doesn't count. Saying me about drivers update is like slapping my face Always newest. Except OROM, which in case of P67 is pis*ed off by Intel - they update Z68 and higer only (I mean legal OROMs).
But I serously think about checking external LAN card.. unfortunately only one I have is Realtek-based. Sound card as I said - checked with X-Fi, so not that way.

 

[biuro74]

OK, I've found solution... which is unexpected (and probably not seen by anybody else, LOL).

Since today nVidia drivers enable DSR with Fermis and Keplers - so not only 9xx series is able to use it. And then, with DSR and AA turned off = FIRST TIME SINCE A YEAR OR SO stuttering has gone Don't know how it works, but it works, problem solved, even game looks a bit better, and works not slower