Big build around september, what you think?

lee20010

lee20010

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Hi guys, thought after shopping on Overclockers for a few years now I'd actually join the forum. I'm planning to revamp my computer as I'm getting more into my gaming.

Around £1200 to spend. I have my own OS (Should work) Blu ray drive (I'm only taking this from my current comp.

Looking for the fastest set up possible. I also think Watercooling would be welcomed as I have heat issues in my room due to the boiler being in here...and my current set up hits about 44c as oppose to 29c in my last house lol.

My idea so far, missing cooling etc tho

I found a bundle which offers

- CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz @ 4.60GHz Sandybridge CPU
- Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V (default choice)
- RAM: Kingston HyperX Grey 8GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel
- Cooler: Corsair A50 CPU Cooler
- Artic Silver 5 Thermal Compound

for £510...as I am quite lame at overclocking, and have NOOOOOOOO idea about Intel. Was that worth it..

I don't NEED a new keyboard and mouse, but if someone finds a decent pair, fire away. I also dont want a massive case that takes half my room up. And internal neons red or blue (match it with keyboard and mouse please)

I don't know anything about intel

Asus P8Z68-V PRO Z68 Socket 1155 8 Channel HD Audio ATX Motherboard

Intel Core i7 2600 3.4GHz Socket 1155 L3 8MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor

Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz CL9 1.5V Non-ECC Unbuffered

OCZ 60GB Agility 3 SSD - SATA-III - Read 525MB/s Write 475MB/s 50,000

Asus GTX 570 DirectCU II 1280MB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E

WD 1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6Gb/s Caviar Black Hard Drive - 7200rpm 64MB Cache
 
Anything new coming out that I should be aware of...GFX card seems to be the toughest choice. The 590 is TOO expensive
 
From what reviews I've read, bulldozer wont really match an overclocked i7 in terms of gaming, I love AMD, never used intel in my life, but that's what I've read
 
bulldozer is supposed to be out by the 19th of september, so i imagine benchmarks and pricing should be avilable before then, therefore i recommend seeing how it shapes up compared to sandy bridge before making any decisions.

i can't comment on whether or not you need a new keyboard and mouse as i dont know what you've already got, but i can highly recommend the Logitech G110 keyboard and the Logitech G9x mouse (both are black with red LEDs/backlight) if you do decide to get new ones.

also if you do go with sandy bridge, you probably dont need the 2600k, you'd be fine with the 2500k. the 2600k is only better in very heavily threaded apps which are few and far between (pretty much NO games will run faster on the 2600k), and you could put the money you save into a larger solid state drive to hold more programs/games.
 
Most review are just speculation, perhaps worth waiting to see. However in general AMD do tend to compete in terms of price rather than performance. What are you going to be using your new rig for? If its video/audio editing, perhaps 8 cores would benefit you..
 
Media center, as in storing all my movies, music and linking that up to the main tv and sound system. Plus gaming, crysis 2, dirt 3, as I only play COD, Fifa and Forza on the xbox, so I want something that would last into the future, but I THINK, the i7's hyperthreading is something that would be more useful then additional cores that games won't fully use for next couple of years. If I'm right?
 
Games will treat hyperthreading and additional cores as the same thing as far as I am aware. In which case actual physical cores would be of more benefit. However there's still a bit of time to go before games will be fully utilising 8 cores :(
 
Still, comparing recent benchmarks, the i7 at stock is destroying everything on the latest games, I fail to see how Bulldozer will match it. Again I love AMD. Just think this time, I will turn to Intel. Plus is there any point going for 16GB of ram, or stick to 8GB?
 
Theres no performance results for Bulldozer, so you can either buy now and be happy, or wait for this piece of vapourware to turn up and see how it performs.

Stick with the 8GB kit, such as the Crucial kit thats on special offer at £40
 
Well I hope AMD release it at the latest October, I'm wondering would it be worth risking 2x 1GB drives (will be using 60GB SSD for OS and software) to hold my music, films and games on....Proformance wise, how does it work...never configured RAID before.
 
2x1TB I presume you mean. I currently run 2x500GB in RAID 0 for my games, its a nice wee speed boost over a single drive configuration. I keep my music/films on a separate drive as they don't require a fast drive at all.

I take it you're after a RAID 0 instead of a RAID 1 setup?
 
iostream said:
2x1TB I presume you mean. I currently run 2x500GB in RAID 0 for my games, its a nice wee speed boost over a single drive configuration. I keep my music/films on a separate drive as they don't require a fast drive at all.

I take it you're after a RAID 0 instead of a RAID 1 setup?
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What's the difference between the two?
 
lee20010 said:
Well I hope AMD release it at the latest October, I'm wondering would it be worth risking 2x 1GB drives (will be using 60GB SSD for OS and software) to hold my music, films and games on....Proformance wise, how does it work...never configured RAID before.
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i wouldn't bother with RAID tbh, if you need 2 TB of space just get a 2tb drive :)

oh and DO NOT get the OCZ Agility, I had one and it lasted me a full 5 days before going kaput. Other people have had similar issues, I would go with the crucial/intel options instead (I am now running a crucial one and had no problems :) )
 
hellarda said:
i wouldn't bother with RAID tbh, if you need 2 TB of space just get a 2tb drive :)

oh and DO NOT get the OCZ Agility, I had one and it lasted me a full 5 days before going kaput. Other people have had similar issues, I would go with the crucial/intel options instead (I am now running a crucial one and had no problems :) )
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Oh dear lol. I've always used OCZ ram and never had issues, so thought they would be a solid brand. Hows the Crucial one working for you, and whats the read/write speeds, price aswell :)
 
RAID 0 (aka stripe) essentially increases your throughput by spreading your data over the two drives. This is why I use a RAID 0 array for games.

RAID 1 (aka mirrored) on the other hand halves your storage space, but has redundancy, ie everything is 'mirrored' between the two drives. Good for backups.

More detailed descriptions on all the different RAID arrays:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

(good old Wikipedia to the rescue :D )
 
lee20010 said:
Oh dear lol. I've always used OCZ ram and never had issues, so thought they would be a solid brand. Hows the Crucial one working for you, and whats the read/write speeds, price aswell :)
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i've always been advised to stay way away from OCZ but I thought i would give them a try and...well yeah.


crucial don't seem to do a 60gb one tho :/ however their 128gb one is £173.99, however my build cost me ~£1100 and I managed to fit in their 128gb a 570gtx 2500k and a stupidly expensive case... so you should be able to get it in for £1200 :)

read/write speeds are as good as advertised i seem to remember, I think i got around the same as they claim in ATTO (Read Speed: 415MB/Sec, Write Speed: 175MB/Sec) Actually I think I got around 200MB/sec for writing and abot 450MB/sec for read :)

Can double check for you when i get home on thursday? :)
 
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