Big monitors the future?

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Curious if i am the only person miffed at this. Basically with the trend of MSAA going away in 90% of games your now left with a large bunch of displays at the mercy of pixels per inch. I am using a 24" and to be honest ive recently had to move my desk out from the wall, And leave half the stand hanging off the edge just to get it back some, It is about arms length and it hurts my eyes when things are mostly out of my inner eye focus area. So my question is what kind of laughable trend is a 38 inch or 40 inch monitor or even a 27 inch?

Not only is it about size and how my eye reacts to the distance but there is a shocking difference in games when you jump up in PPI. Even 4K does not have the needed PPI at these sizes because without AA and sitting back you still see pixelated grass and trees etc. But by moving back you are cheating yourself of image quality? Because when you sit back with a larger screen you need a bigger more expensive panel which loses definition the more you sit back. So the more you increase the size, The more you lose PPI and the more you move back to counter this the more detail is lost.

This is something i find incredibly stupid and counter productive as smaller screens are superior in all ways, And would like to see something with 4k in a 24 inch again or a 34 inch with 3840x1600 75hz. What the hell do you do when a game has no real AA? 109 PPI is actually quite disgusting in all honesty if we had to really take a subjective look at it up close. But as i said before if you move away you will lose some detail.

 

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Im using the Hygena sun glossy desk it cost me £100 or so it is not the desk it is a standard size it is simply reality. I do not understand how you can use a 32 inch at 70cm. And you stated "Now it feels cramped, as every head movement changes the "view" more radically" you do realize you are doing it wrong right if it changes the view with head movement? You are so close you are trying to simulate VR or something? This is the exact opposite of what i want because it gimps you online. You cant scan a screen and react if you move so close that things now are in your peripheral vision. Heck it sounds like some people now want it so close even things move out of the peripheral zone? Or have it understood it wrong because it sounds like this is what some people in here want.



A 40inch on a desk is NOT achieveable most desks top out at 3ft and you simply cannot take in a 40 inch or 32 inch screen at those ranges no way in hell. I cant even do it with a 24 inch at arms length. And if im rendering things outside of my central vision zone im cheating myself also. Think about it, Driving pixels that not only blur without ULMB, They probably blur without ultra high refresh rates and now your going to render those and put them out into your perhipheral which is another waste. So your in my mind wasting pixels twice if that makes sense. Sorry just cannot get my head around it and hope the thread does not seem like a dig or rude at those who perfer this as each to thier own. But you must be killing yourself in shooters surely it would make sense to move back and maybe even move back with an Ultrawide over a 40 inch?

 

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Yea while sitting back for games is great Mahius i had to delve into Chrome settings and set minimum font size to 15 myself because its now as far back as i can get but do not scale it up just use font sizes to keep the crispness. It sucks that its scaling of text and ui doing this everything else i find is enhanced so much with a smaller screen but thier backwards in supporting high PPI. And a big test soon will be For Honor it again has no MSAA like Overwatch surprise there so this is where PPI counts.

SMAA is crap, TAA is crap, FXAA is worse again they all blur the image or do a poor job compared to MSAA PPI is the only true way to enhance the entire image and do anti-aliasing properly and from what i seen 4K 60fps required a 1080 in For Honor and Overwatch. So this leaves most people with an ugly consolized experience unless they have a 1080 and a 4K monitor with good ppi. I would not want to play For Honor on a 27 inch monitor unless it was 4K because it would be ugly and the only way to fix it would be 4X DSR with 0% smoothness but thats not feasable at 1440p is it? This is why im hugging my 1080p 120hz because 4x is 4K and its a lovely image with no aliasing.

If i stepped to anything else it might have more true PPI but it would also be a more jaggy image

 

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Dell sell a 24" IPS 4K monitor. I'm typing this message on one right now. And very nice it is too.

Yea i saw the thread and thought it was the Dell, Nice screen but at 60hz a lot of the clarity of 4K is lost to smearing. I am going to wait until 4K 120hz in a 24 inch maybe? In the meantime 4K 120hz with ULMB on the Eizo is still the best 24 inch choice i think.

The Dell is twice the PPI though which is impressive! But really after that it becomes a normal screen it would be like going back to my Dell 2007WFP days maybe that 20 inch started this PPI fixation.