Big Tech Authoritarianism

Raikiri said:
There were outlets. They just weren't allowed to use them.

Not just anyone could go on telly or the radio and reach thousands/millions of people. In fact it was actively restricted/illegal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_radio_in_the_United_Kingdom

Even if there weren't outlets, the original point was that we're more free today than we've ever been. Whether that's afforded by technology or not is largely irrelevant.
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That's a fair point.
 
Hades said:
I missed this on my previous reply. It is a predictable response that the race and misogyny card is thrown around. You are suggesting that I am to blame for my generations treatment of women and people of colour. You are making a massive assumption that because I value freedom of opinion that I must therefore have opinions that are "outdated" and not acceptable today.

How do you explain that I was the first of my peer group to date interacially? How do you explain that I married a non-white woman and had children with her? How do you explain that I was picked on both verbally and physically by non-white people for daring to marry her and stood my ground believing I was right? How do you explain that I didn't talk to my father for about 10 years and moved out of his house because he did indeed have those opinions of me having a non-white girlfriend? Just like many people nowadays you assume that someone in favour of freedom of speech/opinions must have "wrong" values and can't actually be arguing for the principle itself.

Was my marrying interacially an outdated opinion?
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All this upheaval and yet you still think freedoms are worse now. Odd.
 
dLockers said:
All this upheaval and yet you still think freedoms are worse now. Odd.
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Nice swerve of my point picking you up on the race/monogeny card. But yes I genuinely do believe freedoms are worse now. I equally find it strange that you seem to think we live in a more free society (or at least a no more restricted one).
 
Hades said:
Nice swerve of my point picking you up on the race/monogeny card. But yes I genuinely do believe freedoms are worse now. I equally find it strange that you seem to think we live in a more free society (or at least a no more restricted one).
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Bizarre you are arguing otherwise. Freedom of expression, freedom of religion, freedom of partner, freedom of thought - are more free than ever. Your only point against me was telephone listening devices (???), CCTV and companies keeping a log on what you have (which is ironic given that the word journal was created millennium ago).
 
dLockers said:
Bizarre you are arguing otherwise. Freedom of expression, freedom of religion, freedom of partner, freedom of thought - are more free than ever.
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EDIT: Actually I really can't be bothered with the discussion any more. I am happy you feel today is a more free society.
 
Hades said:
Were those things not free in the 1970's too?
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How would I know? I can only read what big publishers decided was the narrative of the time and deserved to go into my curriculum as opposed to being able to do independent research at the tip of my fingers. Oh... wait...
 
Hotwired said:
Solid evidence for the FBI then?

They're offering $1000 per person identified and have so far arrested quite a few and I don't believe any have been "antifa".

I'm fully expecting it to be the same as the voting videos where some guy/woman is pausing tv footage every few seconds and describing with their full imagination what they believe is happening.

But go on then, lets see the videos.
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Other videos showing bus loads of Antifa arriving.
 
jsmoke said:

Other videos showing bus loads of Antifa arriving.
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Comments on that video are even funnier than this thread.

"User on YouTube
this is why big tech is pushing hard to stop communication amongst people with this evidence on top of getting rid of trump, it all makes sense now"

Said User on YouTube, posted on YouTube.
 
jsmoke said:

Other videos showing bus loads of Antifa arriving.
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Roar87 said:
There's nothing you can post that will make them believe Antifa did it, they aren't interested, their minds are made up and closed.
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I watched it.

It's a guy talking over a video stating that the ones breaking in are "antifa" because they're dressed in black and wearing masks.

I gave you my time and you didn't surprise me, I posted this before your link after all:

Hotwired said:
I'm fully expecting it to be the same as the voting videos where some guy/woman is pausing tv footage every few seconds and describing with their full imagination what they believe is happening.

But go on then, lets see the videos.
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This is some prat talking over a video yet again making amazing claims about things they see on the basis of jack ****.

Meanwhile you cant swing a dead cat for trump supporters posting pictures of THEMSELVES doing dumb **** before after and during the invasion of the building.

The evidence you want to believe is pointing at unidentifiable people and saying, that's antifa.
 
Things you love to see, fair consistent and independent reporting:

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solado said:
Trump had 74,223,744 votes, I would pay to see that many people fit into congress. Also it looks like you're implying I believe antifa was behind the storming?
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Ok I thought you were referring to those at the Trump rally, not all those who voted for him.

Of course I'm not. Conspiracy theorists and MAGAs like jsmoke are. See quoted. He truly believes this is the case, like 10s of millions he is lost down the rabbit hole.


jsmoke said:
Yes they have actually, on the 6th. Many know antifa members caught on video actually were the ones breaking into the building and initiating the heard to storm in. Agitators.
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Roar87 said:
There's nothing you can post that will make them believe Antifa did it, they aren't interested, their minds are made up and closed.
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I think a lot of it is brainwashing to believe anything what the mainstream media says, and anyone who even just questions the mainstream narrative is somehow a wacky conspiracy theorist.

There is a few good things to come from these recent events. 1. It has exposed for the world to see how these social media companies have become publishers, 2. How they have conspired together to coordinate attacks against people and other rival companies, but also 3. It has exposed how lazy many Internet companies are by latching on to already established social media sites to build a brand.

I purposely wasn't interested in Parler because it was built on a platform that have already been shown they can't be trusted when we had all this with Gab. Now that Parler has been shutdown its come out that it was built on Wordpress and an exploited bug using plugins have allowed hackers to download the entire database including account information, posts, uploaded media as well as material that was used in the verification process i.e driving licenses photos back and front.
 
Tom1138 said:
Then by that definition the protests in Washington were mostly peaceful, because it was only a small percentage in the Capitol Hill building. And pulling down Parler and deplatforming Trump is a massive overreaction.
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Parler will find another home. Amazon doesn't want to be associated with a platform that allows people to encourage others to murder politicians, carry out acts of insurrection and rampant anti-Semitism and racism. You should have visited and looked around, it was full of such poisonous speech. Why would Amazon want it on their hardware?

As for Trump, he got more leeway than any other Twitter user. He would have been banned a long time ago if he wasn't POTUS. He caused what happened on Wednesday, he showed no remorse for what happened. His video to those that murdered a police officer and injured many others told them how much he loved them and what patriots they are. Give me a break. He fiully deserved to have his account locked.
 
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