** BIGFOOT 2100 - STORMING PRICEPOINT **

FrenchTart said:
I'm sorry but a single contrived use case does not a good product make.

I've just read your review and your point about the UDP traffic doesn't make much sense either. You demonstrate results that show that the huge increase in UDP throughput makes virtually zero difference to actual in game pings and jitter so I'm not really sure how you draw the conclusion that this UDP bandwidth matters to the user.

I also do not really get your point about suffering "less dropouts" from servers. Somebody's local wired network is *not* going to be the reason that they get dropouts from servers.
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That's why it didn't get a good review!

The end result of UDP throughput was no significant increase in gaming performance. It's a niche device that will only be useful in specific circumstances. It's not useless. I don't agree with OcUK's marketing, it's almost misleading, but the device does work.

The dropouts on my connection were caused by my onboard network card not dealing well with ping spikes that I was getting from my ISP at the time. The Killer 2100 was able to overcome those much more easily. But, as said, almost all the performance is at the mercy of factors out of your control.
 
alex24 said:
That's why it didn't get a good review!

The end result of UDP throughput was no significant increase in gaming performance. It's a niche device that will only be useful in specific circumstances. It's not useless. I don't agree with OcUK's marketing, it's almost misleading, but the device does work.

The dropouts on my connection were caused by my onboard network card not dealing well with ping spikes that I was getting from my ISP at the time. The Killer 2100 was able to overcome those much more easily. But, as said, almost all the performance is at the mercy of factors out of your control.
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That's great. I can agree with all of that. I think your original post in this thread gave a somewhat more positive impression and that's why you've been jumped on.
 
FrenchTart said:
That's great. I can agree with all of that. I think your original post in this thread gave a somewhat more positive impression and that's why you've been jumped on.
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This is the problem - people bash it but don't actually understand what it's actually capable of, what it does, and how it works. It won't transform your internet connection at all, but it does as BigFoot advertise (at a stretch with some of their marketing).

Chances are, if you don't know that this will help you, it probably won't. Those who already fully understand what it does and how networking and windows works, may find value in some circumstances just by the nature of their understanding and likely expertise and use of their PC/network.
 
alex24 said:
This is the problem - people bash it but don't actually understand what it's actually capable of, what it does, and how it works. It won't transform your internet connection at all, but it does as BigFoot advertise (at a stretch with some of their marketing).

Chances are, if you don't know that this will help you, it probably won't. Those who already fully understand what it does and how networking and windows works, may find value in some circumstances just by the nature of their understanding and likely expertise and use of their PC/network.
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I can see your point about people bashing it but that's true of any product that gets a bad reputation as snake oil.

However, those that do understand it would also find it very hard to justify it as anything more than a very expensive (relative to utility) toy.
 
You could put these cards in the same market as Beats Headphones, monster cables etc.
They appeal to a certain market, it may not be the general demographic of this forum but considering they have been around for a while, proves there are people buying into the brand. The product is immaterial.
 
FrenchTart said:
However, those that do understand it would also find it very hard to justify it as anything more than a very expensive (relative to utility) toy.
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That is certainly true. It doesn't represent great value for money, even for those who can make use of it. However, little really does in high end PC hardware.
 
alex24 said:
That is certainly true. It doesn't represent great value for money, even for those who can make use of it. However, little really does in high end PC hardware.
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Can't argue with that. Though to split hairs a little I'll say that the benefit for most overpriced computer hardware purchases (e.g. 7970 vs 7950) is a little easier to measure.
 
If the card was £20 then it would be worth a punt.

I remember reading about these when EVGA started to sell these with there own branding on. Drivers where a mess causing all sorts of system crashes and I dont think they could even do 1GBit throughput despite being branded as 1GBit cards due to them not being 'Optimised' for that kind of work.
 
Woah, just got one..

It's so quick I have just shaved 5 seconds my f1 2010 Spa lap record! It really is faster! :-P
 
I have one built in on the MB, It does improve ping and lets you play games whilst DLing, BUT, the drivers are ****, they cause crashes on some games and BSOD sometimes, hope they sort them out.

It don`t like World of Tanks!
 
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