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Rykas is a bit dull, just a park and stand around location and queue for drinks and food, no antics allowed :(

The two stroke meet is much more fun, plenty of people with broken bikes and leaking fluids :D a proper meet

Yeah Rykas is very much a show-off place. They've really upped their game food wise though, and the sponsored days they have are generally worth a looksee. Ducati and Triumph both have them regularly.

I still need a smoker, that might hafta be the next itch I scratch.
 
Rode today as finger was feeling better. Not 100% yet. The Bird was feeling rough again at low rpms. I guess the issue was more evident as Missus was riding pillion. Once the rpm hits above 2.5/3k the engine sounded fine.

Went to J&S and got a pair of gloves for the missus.

Saw two Fellow Blackbird riders. One was at J&S, same R reg as mine and Black bike. Exchanged hellos, couldn't talk much as we needed to get back to pick up our youngest from the Nursery. :)

On other note, I was thinking to upgrade the armour on my jacket and trousers to level 2 by buying the Alpinestars or Rheon inserts. Seems like a cheaper option than buying the entire jacket and trouser pair. Remortgage upcoming hence thinking of going down that route. Wanted to check with you guys what do you think? :)
 
Check the armour will fit is the main thing. I have three jackets, with three sets of armour, and none are interchangeable, especially the back protector!
 
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Anyone got a Shoei GT Air 3?
Looking to pick one up as I can get a fairly chunky discount! Hopefully infinity Motorcycles in Holborn have one I can try on!
 
Anyone got a Shoei GT Air 3?
Looking to pick one up as I can get a fairly chunky discount! Hopefully infinity Motorcycles in Holborn have one I can try on!
Haven't got one but had tried it in the shop. What I was impressed with is the weight distribution. It never felt heavy on my head even though it was heavier than* the HJC I have.
 
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Anyone got a Shoei GT Air 3?
Looking to pick one up as I can get a fairly chunky discount! Hopefully infinity Motorcycles in Holborn have one I can try on!
I have the previous version, a GT Air 2. I don't wear it as much as my Neotec 2 as I prefer the flip up nature of the Neotec. But it's a good helmet. I find it reasonably quiet and comfortable (obviously that will depend on head shape). Shoei offer different size head linings and cheek pads to get a good fit and it has space for an optional built in Sena comms (I'm not overly impressed with the comms but it's OK). I find the sliding sun visor excellent, as is the included pinlock. Ventilation is acceptable (I find my Neotec better in that regard but it's still OK). I assume the GT Air 3 would be at least as good.

One thing to keep in mind is that it has a ratcheted chin strap rather than a traditional D ring. Some people prefer the D ring and some people find the bulkier chin strap on the GT Air 2 to be a little uncomfortable. Personally I prefer the ratcheted strap to a D ring so am very happy with it. I have read that Shoei improved the placement and fit of the strap on the GT Air 3. I only mention it in case you're not aware of the strap. Another is that, at least on the 2 (I'm not sure about the 3) the first detent on the visor is quite large. So you can either open it a tiny crack or quite a bit. But some people prefer that first opening to be between the two. Again I don't find it an issue and only mention it as I have read some people commenting on it.

It definitely feels a high quality helmet. I also crash tested its brother the Neotec ( which is similar to the GT Air but with the flip front) and it performed well.
 
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Can't believe how expensive the Honda Forza 125 SE is. £5800!! :eek: How can they justify 2x the price of what I have, granted the Forza has ABS, and electronic windscreen...and better resale value..but even so that's nuts!
 
Can't believe how expensive the Honda Forza 125 SE is. £5800!! :eek: How can they justify 2x the price of what I have, granted the Forza has ABS, and electronic windscreen...and better resale value..but even so that's nuts!

The Forza is their top of the line 125, it was designed as the 350 and then had a 125 bolted on to it for those CBT noobs. If you fancy something a bit nicer, look at a PCX or Nmax. If anything I'd say the Forza is underpowered for its weight. Even my ADV, which is a different flavour of the same bike, would feel hilariously underpowered with a 125.
 
The Forza is their top of the line 125, it was designed as the 350 and then had a 125 bolted on to it for those CBT noobs. If you fancy something a bit nicer, look at a PCX or Nmax. If anything I'd say the Forza is underpowered for its weight. Even my ADV, which is a different flavour of the same bike, would feel hilariously underpowered with a 125.

Apparently the 125 Forza can reach 70...but yeah it's fair bit heavier than the 125..as you said it's based on the 350 chassis
 
Apparently the 125 Forza can reach 70...but yeah it's fair bit heavier than the 125..as you said it's based on the 350 chassis

No 125 scooter will hit 70 no matter what anyone tells you. 65mph GPS on a good day. My 350 will only hit 85 GPS. 90 if all the stars or align and the wind is right and it's downhill and I'm slipstreaming. I think I've managed it twice. To go any faster than that I'd have to fling it off a very high cliff.

I don't do speedo readings as that's not what speed cameras work around, they work around GPS speeds.
 
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I have the previous version, a GT Air 2. I don't wear it as much as my Neotec 2 as I prefer the flip up nature of the Neotec. But it's a good helmet. I find it reasonably quiet and comfortable (obviously that will depend on head shape). Shoei offer different size head linings and cheek pads to get a good fit and it has space for an optional built in Sena comms (I'm not overly impressed with the comms but it's OK). I find the sliding sun visor excellent, as is the included pinlock. Ventilation is acceptable (I find my Neotec better in that regard but it's still OK). I assume the GT Air 3 would be at least as good.

One thing to keep in mind is that it has a ratcheted chin strap rather than a traditional D ring. Some people prefer the D ring and some people find the bulkier chin strap on the GT Air 2 to be a little uncomfortable. Personally I prefer the ratcheted strap to a D ring so am very happy with it. I have read that Shoei improved the placement and fit of the strap on the GT Air 3. I only mention it in case you're not aware of the strap. Another is that, at least on the 2 (I'm not sure about the 3) the first detent on the visor is quite large. So you can either open it a tiny crack or quite a bit. But some people prefer that first opening to be between the two. Again I don't find it an issue and only mention it as I have read some people commenting on it.

It definitely feels a high quality helmet. I also crash tested its brother the Neotec ( which is similar to the GT Air but with the flip front) and it performed well.
Thank you for the review, lots to think about when I try it on!

I’m definitely in favour of the ratchet over the D Clip, atleast I can undo it with my gloves on

I already have a Sena mesh system so was planning on just moving that over from my current one, I have seen some reviews about the optional one not being amazing.

Coming from a 7 year old shark helmet that is definitely one size too small I’m quite excited at the prospect of not having a headache from a squashed face haha!
 
No 125 scooter will hit 70 no matter what anyone tells you. 65mph GPS on a good day. My 350 will only hit 85 GPS. 90 if all the stars or align and the wind is right and it's downhill and I'm slipstreaming. I think I've managed it twice. To go any faster than that I'd have to fling it off a very high cliff.

I don't do speedo readings as that's not what speed cameras work around, they work around GPS speeds.
Speed cameras use a ground scale, LIDAR, or laser. Very accurate.

GPS is more accurate than an intentionally low reading speedo (which all vehicles have from factory), but GPS is nowhere near as accurate as a speed camera's methods.

Now, a properly calibrated speedo is actually pretty accurate. Although, it's less properly calibrating it and more so removing the intentionally low display on the speedometer that you look at.

ABS/speed sensors are rather accurate because maths. Still not as good as those damn lasers though. Pew pew, laser beams, yo.

Edit: have you bought HS some BikerGPT tokens?
 
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Thank you for the review, lots to think about when I try it on!

I’m definitely in favour of the ratchet over the D Clip, atleast I can undo it with my gloves on

I already have a Sena mesh system so was planning on just moving that over from my current one, I have seen some reviews about the optional one not being amazing.

Coming from a 7 year old shark helmet that is definitely one size too small I’m quite excited at the prospect of not having a headache from a squashed face haha!
I went from an older Shark helmet to a Shoei Neotec 3 last year, night and day difference. I got the built in comms too.
Motolegends ended up price matching and beating by 10% the best price I could find as well.
Just pop along and try a few on until you find a good fit :)
 
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