Bikes...

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Just wondering if anyone has a story to tell of moving over to a bike from being a car enthusiast.
I enjoy driving, would probably enjoy riding too but not sure it's wise with most of the year being wet and Welsh roads being in, generally, crap condition.
Bike prices seem way cheap, power to weight is massive and 40MPG seems realistic on most 600cc bikes too...
 
[TW]Fox;9983359 said:
I wish I loved bikes. Could have had a brand new R6 for what I paid for a used car.


You can't get 5 door bikes though:p How will you give you mates a lift to the pub
 
[TW]Fox;9983359 said:
I wish I loved bikes. Could have had a brand new R6 for what I paid for a used car.

There are R1s on ebay from 2.5+.
One I looked at 2 secs ago, registered MY00, 8k miles, currently @ 2.5k.
I'm not up on bikes so these are probably right dogs but you get a flavour for the prices like this.
 
I cant comment on going from cars>bikes but power wise they're in a completely different league to you're average car, you can get into a lot of trouble very quickly (I guess in the same way in a very fast car)

I really wouldn't be looking at 1000cc sports bikes unless you're head is screwed on completely right, if you find it hard not to put your put down then you'll have problems. Bikes dont have traction control, ABS and all these aided gizmos that a lot of car drivers rely on, it truely is man and machine.

Bikes are cheap for the performance you get, early R1's are nice bikes and do go for aroud £2500-3000 for a really tidy one.
 
How many times you had a, "oh ****, this is it!" moment :p

Only once actually when I first got it and I took a mini roundabout too quickly before I'd set up the suspension. I ended up having to lean right over and force myself to get me knee down (wearing jeans).

I am a safe rider though and I always ride within my limits.

In a car you can get away with a few little scratches and maybe a dent or two if you make a mistake.
On a bike you end up denting a scratching yourself and they are a lot harder to T-cut out!
 
You only really have a "Oh ****" incident thats rider related once a year well i do anyway :p usually pushing to hard in the wet, but other people pulling out on you etc can happen at anytime and touch wood only had a "Oh ****" when someone pulls out on me twice in 3 years ive been riding, but weekly i get people doing silly stuff but not enough to get my heart going :p
 
Just wondering if anyone has a story to tell of moving over to a bike from being a car enthusiast.

They're not mutually exclusive ;)

Sounds like you already know the main positives and negatives though.

Performance:
Bikes are incredibly quick. Even a modest 500cc commuter will outperform most cars on the road up to about 120mph. a 125 will beat most cars away from the lights, and a GSXR1000 will beat everything under a Veyron. TWO magazine took along a load of old bikes to Bruntingthorpe for the annual Autocar magazine 0-100-0 tests. A Goldwing almost kept up with a GT3, and a 10 year old yamaha thunderace costing £1500 beat every car there

Ability:
Using all that performance is a different matter. It easier to learn to ride a bike than it is to drive a car, but its harder to ride a bike fast than it is to drive a car fast. Cornering comes with experience - it much harder to change lines mid corner on a bike than a car.

Practicality:
Mixed bag this - on a sportsbike you're really restricted to what you can carry. You can use a tank bag which will get a few carrierbags worth of stuff in it, plus a tailpack which will get the same again, and/or wear a rucksack. I recently bought a Triumph Tiger with hard luggage, which is much more practical. I have lockable top box plus 2 panniers, all of which just click on and off the bike, turning them into small handheld suitcases. I have about 100 litres of luggae space, plus can still add a tank bag if required. Little things like carry a spare change of 'normal' clothes, plus the ability to lock your helmet and gloves away makes it more suitable for commuting etc

Time:
one of the best benefits of a bike. You generally never get stuck in traffic, so you know how long your journey is going to take - you're not reliant on how busy the rest of the traffic is. Filtering is fun :)

Cost:
Very dependent on the Bike. An R1 or any other litre sports bike is not going to be cheap to run. Economy is about 35-40mpg, service intervals are generally every 6k and can be expensive when you need the valve clearances checking. Tyres will last between 2 and 5k and cost about £200 per pair to replace. They also eat chains. On the flip side, a 500cc commuter will do 60mpg easily, 10k on a set of tyres, about £30 for a years road tax etc etc. a 600cc sportsbike is somewhere in between. Insurance is also to be considered. My ZX9 cost me £300 per year TPFT, and the tiger is £150 fully comp - both have 900cc engines

Safety:
Car definitely wins this. I've been lucky on that in 17 years riding I've not had an accident. My dad has been riding about 45 years and also has never had an off. I ride quite cautiously though, but like to open it up when safe. Bikes arent inherently unsafe - its a combination of bad riding and other road users that cause the accidents. You do see a lot of dangerous riding on the roads - not necessarily crazy speeds, more dangerous overtakes, lack of awareness of what might be round the next bend, bad reading of road signs etc. All you can do is do as much training as possible, use your common sense, learn from any near misses and ride defensively.

The biggest thing for me is riding a bike really does give you a greater 'rush' than driving a car. You can take a car out for a good blast on a night/weekend whatever and have a lot of fun for sure, but try taking it to the coast on a bank holiday weekend and its misery stuck in traffic, whereas even a mundane commute on a bike can be exciting :)
 
They're not mutually exclusive ;)

Sounds like you already know the main positives and negatives though.

Performance:
Bikes are incredibly quick. Even a modest 500cc commuter will outperform most cars on the road up to about 120mph. a 125 will beat most cars away from the lights, and a GSXR1000 will beat everything under a Veyron. TWO magazine took along a load of old bikes to Bruntingthorpe for the annual Autocar magazine 0-100-0 tests. A Goldwing almost kept up with a GT3, and a 10 year old yamaha thunderace costing £1500 beat every car there

That was a very interesting read, surprising how many of the bikes stopped quicker than the cars aswell
 
I was looking at buying an integra type R and paying silly insurance until I decided to finish off getting my full bike license before the new test comes in next year. I'm glad I never got the integra because bikes are a lot more fun and much more involving to ride around on, even slow ones! I now just have a cheap practical car for running around in but I keep the bike for fun.

The bike I'm learning on is really cheap to run too, it will do 120mpg and only cost me £150 to insure for a year with my provisional bike license and 0NCB.
 
I was looking at buying an integra type R and paying silly insurance until I decided to finish off getting my full bike license before the new test comes in next year. I'm glad I never got the integra because bikes are a lot more fun and much more involving to ride around on, even slow ones! I now just have a cheap practical car for running around in but I keep the bike for fun.

The bike I'm learning on is really cheap to run too, it will do 120mpg and only cost me £150 to insure for a year with my provisional bike license and 0NCB.

CG125?
 
That was a very interesting read, surprising how many of the bikes stopped quicker than the cars aswell

Don't forget bikes weigh hardly anything though and the brakes aren't as small as you might imagine!

Performance is what draws me to bikes - even my 16 year old 400cc sportsbike will outperform todays high performance cars. With a 0-60 time of 3.5 seconds and 62bhp motor in a 180kg bike gives you 344bhp/tonne which is plenty enough for smiles per mile....and don't forget, that's just a 400!

The new Hayabusa boasts a whopping 175 bhp in a 220 kg bike - giving you...*works it out*...a massive 795bhp/tonne.

That's why I love bikes :D

I'm sure Fox can even appreciate that too!
 
But sports cars have massive brakes aswell and 4 wheels on the floor, but big problem with heavy breaking on bikes it not getting the front wheel to lock up :p
 
Bikes are great! I used to be into my cars, i prob still be into cars if i had a more fun one (AWD are too predictable). Every time your out on the bike you get a rush, or i do anyway, might have somthing to do with how i ride it :P I would deff give it a go
 
I went from car to bike, drive a Mondeo ST24 and ride a Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R (636cc).

Initial start up costs are quite high, depending on what you aim for, for me I wanted a sports bike and ‘proper’ kit; spent about 5K on the bike, 1.5K on kit and 1K on insurance – not cheap, but I have no regrets.

I use the bike most days, it makes the journey into work far more enjoyable and quicker too, but I still have my car for when weather gets really bad.

I fully recommend riding, even though I don’t have much experience.

Scort.
 
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