Bios Settings and Overclocking Limitations/Problems (PICS)

BiGT- · 28 Jul 2009 at 15:48

Hi, before I mention my problem, my specs are as follows:

Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2160 1.80GHz @ 2.84GHz (315 x 9)

Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H Motherboard

Patriot Extreme Performance 2GB 2X1GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 Dual Channel Memory Kit

Akasa 400w PaxPower PSU

Arctic Cooler Freezer 7 Pro

Maxtor 250Gb & Samsung 200Gb HDD

Basically I have overclocked my CPU to maximum 2.92GHz (325 x 9) and everything has been stable, but when I change the settings to 3.0Ghz (333 x 9) it doesnt get past the welcome screen on Windows 7, I have included images of my BIOS settings and some test programmes to see if you could help me figure out why its not working and tell me what settings I need changing please

Temps:

Intel Stock Heatsink Idle: 34c
Intel Stock Heatsink Load: about 60c max
Freezer 7 Pro Idle: 32c
Freezer 7 Pro Load: about 50 max

Is this right? shouldnt it be less with freezer 7?

if you need any other information or print screens, please ask.

BiGT- · 28 Jul 2009 at 17:26

nobody can help?

Biffa · 28 Jul 2009 at 19:11

Have you tried increasing the voltage on the CPU?

Biffa · 28 Jul 2009 at 19:17

Have you tried increasing the voltage on the CPU?

BiGT- · 28 Jul 2009 at 19:39

yes I have but still the samething

bifday2k · 28 Jul 2009 at 20:01

You might need to add more chipset/NB volts as ur fsb is getting higher.

BiGT- · 28 Jul 2009 at 20:06

How do I go by doing that please?

bifday2k · 28 Jul 2009 at 21:14

I have no idea on how to do that on gigabyte boards sorry, you could look for NB and SB voltage things in the bios if your bios allows that.

Apart from that might be best if someone that is used to gigabyte boards replies to that..

BiGT- · 28 Jul 2009 at 21:36

how many volts should I increase it by?

WJA96 · 29 Jul 2009 at 05:45

Hi,

The first thing you need to do is turn off the power saving features. That means C1E is disabled, and if it was me, EIST and TM2 as well.

[EDIT]And disable all the spread spectrum stuff too[/EDIT]

Then I would run Linked (NVidia chipsets offer the Unlinked, but it's not really an independent RAM clock, it just works out a divider ratio on the fly) and set it to run 2:1 which should give you a RAM speed of 630 at your current CPU FSB.

You don't need anything on the Northbridge as you don't want to overclock the RAM at all. I would also just leave the RAM timings completely on AUTO as it stops the RAM interfering with the CPU overclock.

Do also bear in mind that you currently have a stable 57% overclock. That's a lot. You may be getting near the limits of what the CPU will do without a huge bump in voltage.

BiGT- · 30 Jul 2009 at 02:49

I have done everything you said however my mobo doesnt have the feature for 2:1 :confused:

only 5:4, 1:1, auto, 3:2(I think) and another one which I cant remember but isnt a number.

this time at 3.0GHz it loaded windows but crashed straight away :mad:

Biffa · 30 Jul 2009 at 09:47

If you are getting crashes with more voltage, and underclocking the RAM then....

Congratulations! You've likely reached the limit of the GA-73PVM-S2H Nvidia 7100 chipset.

Its only a mATX motherboard after all, you can't expect it to do sky-high FSB clocks with impunity.

Most likely you need to get either another motherboard or most likely a CPU with a higher multiplier so you can run a lower FSB.

I mean you are getting a 1Ghz overclock already, thats pretty good for a poor little 2160

WJA96 · 30 Jul 2009 at 09:56

Run whatever divider keeps you inside the speed of the RAM (I think it's 1:1).

Add another notch of voltage and try again.

BiGT- · 30 Jul 2009 at 13:57

Its definitely not my motherboard or my CPU Biffa, people have overclocked the E2160 to over 3.4Ghz using similar/same mATX boards.
I havent even touched the voltage on anything its all normal apart from changing 200 x 9 to 315 x 9, thats why I asked my previous question..

how many volts should I increase it by?

Biffa · 30 Jul 2009 at 19:03

Thats why I said:

If you are getting crashes with more voltage, and underclocking the RAM then....

Just try upping the voltage by one step, its going to be trial and error until you get it stable.

Also please remember that not all CPU's and motherboards are created equal, just because others can get 3.4Ghz doesn't mean everyone can

But give it a try and good luck!

BiGT- · 2 Aug 2009 at 13:43

Ok, so I increased the voltage to 1.28/1.29 (according to CPU-Z and 1.32 I think in the bios) and changed the ram timings to 1:1 4,4,4,12 - 2T and im now at 3GHz

at Idle its 33-35C and at full load its 58 - 60C it never really goes that high though even when im watching an 8GB 1080p film (onboard graphics graphics card), I only ran orthos and prim95 for 30 minutes though.

so anyone got any feedback? temps too high? using a freezer 7 pro, dissapointed in it though, not much difference from stock cooler.

WJA96 · 2 Aug 2009 at 13:55

The maximum is 85C, so go for your life.

Just to explain, you're barely above the VID, so you have masses of headroom to increase the voltage.

BiGT- · 2 Aug 2009 at 14:11

the 85C is actually wrong, my maximum temp for my CPU is 61.5 :eek:

I have 2 of the same CPU's and one of them which im not using was 85C at idle and still running :eek:

didnt even switch off.

BiGT- · 2 Aug 2009 at 14:12

When i say 86c is actually wrong, thats what it always said in CPU-Z so maybe I dont know if thats what the real max is and not what intel say is safe max?

WJA96 · 2 Aug 2009 at 14:27

Please don't confuse the socket temperature with the core temperature. The socket temperature is a value set by Intel so that motherboard manufacturers know to spec. components that won't melt if the outside of teh CPU reaches 60C+.

TJunction is when the CPU will start to throttle to cool itself down. Because you have turned off TM2 (I hope) it won't throttle, it will just shut down.