bit the bullet. Took away the overclock and updated to v13 from v1. The updates included running with DO stepping which is what I needed anyway. I have restored the overclock and it's stable and cool. I do seem to be having a problem with the ram. It will not take the xmp profile at all (unlike with the old bios). I have manually set the speed (1600mhz) but cannot seem to get the timings correct. It is supposed to be 9,9,9,24 but I can only seem to reach 10,11,11,28 ?? The voltages are correct .. Should i just set the timings in manual as they should be?