If this turns out to be to expensive I'd be happy to keep my 4090 no problems ..
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I bought my 4090 last year with the full intention of not upgrading for a few years.
People with 4090s who are going to buy a 5090 are surely just fuelling Nvidia's price gouging tactics even more?
What will the 5090 really give you over a 4090 even at 4k?
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144-240hz maxed out settings in more games perhaps.
Maybe the ability to upscale to higher than 4K resolutions and still maintain a solid 60-120hz for certain games
More games hitting 480hz at 1440p natively no frame gen(at whatever settings) This is the one that justifies it for me and if it doesn't onto ebay it shall go
or they can price me out 
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We need to see more leaks ...
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144-240hz maxed out settings in more games perhaps.
Maybe the ability to upscale to higher than 4K resolutions and still maintain a solid 60-120hz for certain games
More games hitting 480hz at 1440p natively no frame gen(at whatever settings) This is the one that justifies it for me and if it doesn't onto ebay it shall go
I know how impactful 60hz vs 144hz was/is, but in the real world, can the human eye see the difference between 240hz and 480hz?
I'm sure it will look smoother, but is that worth £2500?
If you were running a 1080, then the 5090 kind of makes sense, but upgrading from a 4090 to a 5090 just seems a bit wild to me, unless of course spending that much is small change for whoever is spending it!
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Yes I can tell the difference between 360hz and 480hz for example, not in all scenarios, but anything with high motion - as the motion clarity difference kicks in - limited scenarios - but still nice to know you have it.
but nothing is as dramatic as the jump from 60hz to 120/144hz that is so obvious for the senses to detect it
in every scenario
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My poor old 3080 is begging for mercy currently. 5090 can’t come soon enough
(4k 240hz monitor)
(4k 240hz monitor)
Not really sure if it works like that
As someone that needs or wants to upgrade gets to buy that person secondhand 4090 instead of having to buy a brand new GPU
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Why aren't we seeing more leaks? nV could stream videos of them stealing puppies from children now and still sell out. In the past, "leaks" -- mostly constituted of planted info -- were done to drive hype in upcoming products and set expectations at the risk of tipping one's hat to the competition. nV need not worry about any of that now, so why bother revealing information that may affect share price?
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I'm more looking forward to seeing what the software side brings with the new gen, DLSS4 etc. If we just get the same old same old with just some extra speed I'll be disappointed (not like I'm in the market for one anyhow!).
Well my cats third flea told me that Nvidia is going to pull a blinder and do the utterly unexpected with VERY reasonable pricing.
Due to actual competition this time round in the mid range at least the 5070 and latter the 5060 will be relatively cheap (cough).
5060 @ £400
5070 @ £550
5080 @ £899
5090 @ £1799
My god I really hope the flea has good insider info.
Due to actual competition this time round in the mid range at least the 5070 and latter the 5060 will be relatively cheap (cough).
5060 @ £400
5070 @ £550
5080 @ £899
5090 @ £1799
My god I really hope the flea has good insider info.
The difference with high framerate in many of the games I enjoy is very impactful. 240hz motion clarity is really more obvious to me than 120hz.
I'm also waiting for next round of 480hz oled and can't wait to see the motion clarity.
I think opinion over high frames rates really depends on the type of gamer you are.
The way I see it, in the games I mostly play, I am swinging the mouse around in fps games and the motion clarity is greatly reduced. I can have 4k set but only really see true 4k clarity when the picture is still.
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You're right, I love feeling nice and dirty on the insideYou are dying to be given a reason to get a nvidia gpu again
I can clearly see the difference between 60hz and 120hz
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Without a doubt, so can I.
My point was how much of a difference people can see between 144/240/360/480+hz.
I know it's all subjective, so I wasn't really making the point that people can't see a difference, more just making a point that people saying they're getting a 5090 to run 4k @ those refresh rates might be fuelling the ridiculous prices Nvidia charge.
In fact I don't even know what point I was trying to make, was more just sharing my thoughts tbh
I also think there’s a question of whether it’s ‘meaningfully’ different.
Just because you can notice a difference doesn’t mean it’s meaningful.
As I’ve said elsewhere, to me things have the perception of being smooth / slick at a solid 90fps. Beyond that is a ‘mere sweetener’… regardless of whether I can tell the difference or not.
Your mileage may vary but… unless you’re literally a gamer pro looking for a competitive advantage, maybe not?
I think that’s relevant for the sense of value. Nicer is nicer and better is better. But there’s no need for people to have extensive outlay over a difference that’s not ‘truly meaningful’.
Just because you can notice a difference doesn’t mean it’s meaningful.
As I’ve said elsewhere, to me things have the perception of being smooth / slick at a solid 90fps. Beyond that is a ‘mere sweetener’… regardless of whether I can tell the difference or not.
Your mileage may vary but… unless you’re literally a gamer pro looking for a competitive advantage, maybe not?
I think that’s relevant for the sense of value. Nicer is nicer and better is better. But there’s no need for people to have extensive outlay over a difference that’s not ‘truly meaningful’.
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