Man of Honour
Sounds like a bunch of people are coming up with reasons to justify a 5080 than the other way round 
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Soldato
Sounds like a bunch of people are coming up with reasons to justify a 5080 than the other way round
I got 2399 problems and a GPU is every one.
Yeah I think that would be pretty crap tbh.
Soldato
Sounds like a bunch of people are coming up with reasons to justify a 5080 than the other way round
Nah. I'm fully on the 5090 train - my 3080 is getting a bit long in the tooth, may as well go whole hog on the upgrade
When the 3080 launched we got +15% performance over the 2.5k titanRTX for $700, then the 4080 gave +15% performance over $1900 3090ti for $1200. Now we’re looking at maybe 4090 performance for $1200+ so things have definitely gone backwards.
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That's only because 3090 Ti was such a poor value. 4080 gave +40% performance compared to 3080 at +70% price. Just comparing the 80 class product, it wouldn't be surprising if Nvidia offers worse price/fps than last gens.
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Again, the 4080 used **** stuff compared to the 3090 and 3090ti and blew them away, and the 3080-4080 jump easily covers the 4080-4090As before, it won't get 4090 performance, it doesn't have enough cores or memory bus or VRAM - It might with Neural rendering whatever that is, but as also mentioned, you will then have a new category of naysayers that sitr alongside frame gen haters and upscaling haters. That's not quite the same thing and it's not going to negate the need for VRAM at 4K output anyway as enough games now use over 11GB VRAM fairly easily, with more VRAM needed if you enable frame gen and maybe even this neural rendering assuming it's a global feature instead of games needing to be updated to support it like current upscaling and frame gen tech.
Otherwise please explain how you get more from less, this isn't the big bang
Now I don't know what the 5080 will be like, but your post is built entirely on completely wrong stuff heh
Soldato
Jebus you lot can ramble on about the same rubbish for 1000's of posts.
You wanna play 'games' with graphics settings turned up then you are paying for it, who cares anymore, there is zero value in the GPU market at all and who cares if someone wants to pay £2.5k for a graphics card, people smoke, they are idiots doesn't mean they'll stop doing it.
You wanna play 'games' with graphics settings turned up then you are paying for it, who cares anymore, there is zero value in the GPU market at all and who cares if someone wants to pay £2.5k for a graphics card, people smoke, they are idiots doesn't mean they'll stop doing it.
A true brother in arms!
You only live once, let our wallets go down in a blaze of GPU glory
Soldato
A true brother in arms!
You only live once, let our wallets go down in a blaze of GPU glory
We will be selling our 5090s for close to purchase price in a few years, it's all good.
Ps people laughing at the 5090 BOM cost and wanting it to be £1k, but how do you get around the economics realities of what the parts cost (as well as all the other things like distribution, marketing, r&d etc). The DDR7 Vram is $400 alone, plus what, total gues, but $100 for the board etc, plus all the thousands of components. We live in a world where even a console is £699. Its fine to want a cheaper product, but you have to acknowledge it will be less equipped as a result.
Soldato
As before, it won't get 4090 performance, it doesn't have enough cores or memory bus or VRAM - It might with Neural rendering whatever that is, but as also mentioned, you will then have a new category of naysayers that sitr alongside frame gen haters and upscaling haters. That's not quite the same thing and it's not going to negate the need for VRAM at 4K output anyway as enough games now use over 11GB VRAM fairly easily, with more VRAM needed if you enable frame gen and maybe even this neural rendering assuming it's a global feature instead of games needing to be updated to support it like current upscaling and frame gen tech.
Otherwise please explain how you get more from less, this isn't the big bang
Oh dear. Its funny how you were not part of any naysayer speak when this was pointed out at least three years ago but is now a boiler plate segment of many posts...
Everyone here knows there is more fun to be had in discussing and debating endless leaks and rumours than there ever is in actually playing with a £2,000 GPU.
Man of Honour
What does that even mean? I wasn't playing at 4K years ago, and games were not using loads of VRAM like they do now aside from unoptimised outliers like Hogwarts which still stutters into the scene from time to time.Oh dear. Its funny how you were not part of any naysayer speak when this was pointed out at least three years ago but is now a boiler plate segment of many posts...
Soldato
I'm so glad AMD announced they are out of the high end this year so we don't have to constantly listen to "90% of a 5090 performance for £499 rumoured" lol.
Associate
man there are already rumors about how udna is going to be a big gamechanger, a while ago people were speculating how amd is lightyears ahead of nvidia in mcm implementation, fsr 4 is another big rumor doing the rounds - its supposed to be far superior than nvidia's dlss crap and then they also moan in the same thread about how dlss is not real graphics.. also the BIG POSITIVE THING thing about sony collab, amd fans genuinely believe that the combined avg iq of amd + sony is higher than nvidia , the list goes on....
Associate
Despite the extreme over-enthusiasm in the past, I wouldn't count AMD out. It sounds like RDNA4 could essentially provide 4080-level performance for £550. If they can hit that mark in the midrange on price/performance (which they've done on several occasions), it benefits everyone.
But yes, it is refreshing that AMD quelled rumors of 90% top-tier performance for 50% cost early on. What they'll probably end up with is a very compelling midrange offering that bests nV on price/performance, but this time with good RT capabilities.
Associate
I find it kinda funny how folks are moaning that over £2k for a 5090 is too much, but £2k is just fine. Surely at that point, 'money no object' right?
Meanwhile I was among the few moaning since the GTX 1000 series about the price hikes those cards had from the 900 series, yet many regard the 1000 series as great value these days.
Paying 4 figures was kinda silly back in the Titan days, when next gen gave us same performance for mainstream prices (or even similar performance at lower prices same gen, e.g. 980ti) and it still is now. But Nvidia have figured it out now (that they don't need to price nicely to sell), so 4090 perf will probably still be 4 figures for folks thinking about a 5080 or something performing similarly to a 4090.
I know I say I'd be looking for whatever I can get from AMD/Intel for £500 or less (I doubt Nvidia themselves would give us 4080 perf for £500) or even an Intel B580 (which would be massive upgrade from the old 970), but honestly... if I've not bothered to buy anything since the 900 series cos I didn't like the price-to-performance... despite the supposed fuss, it's probable that I still wouldn't bother with anything next gen either
Let's see how things pan out in the coming weeks. Will we yet yet more eyerolling releases or something actually good?
Meanwhile I was among the few moaning since the GTX 1000 series about the price hikes those cards had from the 900 series, yet many regard the 1000 series as great value these days.
Paying 4 figures was kinda silly back in the Titan days, when next gen gave us same performance for mainstream prices (or even similar performance at lower prices same gen, e.g. 980ti) and it still is now. But Nvidia have figured it out now (that they don't need to price nicely to sell), so 4090 perf will probably still be 4 figures for folks thinking about a 5080 or something performing similarly to a 4090.
I know I say I'd be looking for whatever I can get from AMD/Intel for £500 or less (I doubt Nvidia themselves would give us 4080 perf for £500) or even an Intel B580 (which would be massive upgrade from the old 970), but honestly... if I've not bothered to buy anything since the 900 series cos I didn't like the price-to-performance... despite the supposed fuss, it's probable that I still wouldn't bother with anything next gen either
Let's see how things pan out in the coming weeks. Will we yet yet more eyerolling releases or something actually good?
Very few people genuinely have 'no limit' for enthusiast goods. A lot will stop even though they could afford it because they don't feel they are getting value for money. Others purchase regardless because they put that aside when it comes to their hobby.
Then there are an even smaller group where this kind of money just doesn't matter. It could be 5k and they would still buy it because they have a lot of disposable income to hand.
Soldato
Leaked prices look horrendous, no thanks Nvidia.
And so my watch begins, let's see what else comes out from AMD and Intel over the next few months..
And so my watch begins, let's see what else comes out from AMD and Intel over the next few months..