I'm pretty sure there are rules about hitting pedestrians regardless of whether they're supposed to be in a particular road at a given time, but I could be wrong, America is a weird place.
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Lets stick to facts and remove emotional labels -
- Group "A" is legally protesting.
- Group "B" has a counter protest.
- Violent people from both Group "A" & "B" justify attacking each other because the other disagrees with them.
- All the violent people from both Group "A" & "B" are to blame for fighting each other.
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Hey for sure, am not defending the car driver or anything, I just think if you do dangerous things, then you should accept some of the responsibility for your actions if something nasty happens.
That said! Some states in America are now changing their laws to allow car drivers to "push" protesters out the way if they block highways and roads.
I think increasingly we have to start differentiating between people who are coming from a perspective of reason and objectivity versus those of more extremist views who would seek to oppress those who they either disagree with or dislike, arbitrarily redefine what is accepted as normal/abnormal or seek the suppression of individuality, etc. regardless of which side they are on.
I'm sure you're not saying the car driver gets to mete out justice, but it does sound a bit like you are...
Which just goes to show how morally bankrupt America is.IronWarrior said:
What is wrong with people in this thread?!
No one is applying "emotional labels"
There were people who were wearing nazi symbols and waving nazi symbols as well as making enormously racist hate speeches.
And that's great but it doesn't give you or anyone the right to give them a smacking.
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Don't see the problem if a car can itch forward at 1mph etc to push them out the way. You not going to kill them.
Would you be happy if protesters closed down the M1 or any of the roads into London?
This video is NSFW (the music in it) sorry mods, remove if you like but that black SUV was moving at a safe speed in my view.
Remember that stunt few months ago, where BLM closed down London City Airport: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-protesters-occupy-london-city-airport-runway
Why can they shut down the entire airport? Why is the police spending hours looking at them? Why ain't they arresting them right away. If I remember right, it took over 7 hours for it to reopen.
Hey, if you want to learn more, here is a video:
News story: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-bills-protest-criminal-20170201-story.html
None of this would happen if the Police did their job in the end.
Don't bite me, am just sharing things I read and seen.
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Certainly looks like it.
One side who attacks people who don't agree with their views. The other side attacks people who don't agree with their views.
Your post was close to being an apology/justification for the actions of the white supremacists.
Only if you deconstruct the situation into such a narrow reference that it becomes unrepresentative.
One group has a long history of, and exist to, espouse racism and hatred against various ethnic and minority groups and use violence to achieve that aim. The other group exists to combat such viewpoints, which are viewed as abhorrent by the vast majority of the population, and use violence to achieve that aim.
So they have the violence in common, but the application of and raison d'etre for that violence is vastly different.
I'd rather the police did their job than someone decide it's ok to legalise running people over. That seems a fairly inadequate solution.
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Same! I agree, the police should do it!
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There has also been a "counter protest" in Seattle in response, this whole situation has nothing to do with Seattle.
Oh surprise surprise, they rioted and smashed stuff up and fought with the police....
Remember though folks, it's only the nazi white supremacists doing this. Not all idiots who also wave communist flags. They din du nuffin bruv all the right wingers m8. That is why Trump spoke out against all violence because they're just as bad and have been for months.
Oh surprise surprise, they rioted and smashed stuff up and fought with the police....
Remember though folks, it's only the nazi white supremacists doing this. Not all idiots who also wave communist flags. They din du nuffin bruv all the right wingers m8. That is why Trump spoke out against all violence because they're just as bad and have been for months.
This is the thing though - while somewhat a side note in this particular event those people you are referring to are increasingly becoming intolerant of anyone who doesn't agree with their views and as such increasingly trying to silence those that don't even branding people with reasoned and objective views as Nazis or other right wing or using manipulation of the emotional high ground to try and silence them, etc. while for some reason its dropped off a bit now since things kicked off in Virgina the BBC, CNN, etc. for weeks have been pushing every LGBT, social justice, anti-partition/apartheid, discrimination, etc. story they can scrape up lately almost like someone is trying to redefine people's perception of normal :s (granted some of it was in relation to India's 70 year thing).
Personally I'm becoming sick of it from both sides and find it equally vile.
Show me one post ITT where anyone has said that
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Where did I say I read that in this thread?
The media in the USA however definitely have a bias and has been encouraging this kind violence for a very very long time. Famous figures calling for Trumps assination etc, and a few others said they were glad when Steve Scalise was shot.
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Gotta laugh at the Father of that dead AntiFa girl claiming she was only there to stand up for equality. How exactly was she doing that then, by trying to shut down a legal protest and silence another group of people because they hold views that she disagrees with that? And to think, they say Americans don't do irony.
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Was she there illegally?
Whether they are there legal or not, there is no room for racist, white supremacist Nazis.
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