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New information from a Fox press release

Fox announces first Blu-ray releases: 8 titles, BD-J, MPEG-4 AVC, 50GB
Posted Aug 31st 2006 10:42AM by Richard Lawler
Filed under: Industry, News, Programming

Fox has announced they are jumping into the Blu-ray market in a big way this fall, with eight titles scheduled and the debut of many of the advanced features we've been expecting to see from Blu-ray since launch. Slated to launch just ahead of the Playstion 3 in Japan November 10th followed by North America, Europe and Australia release on November 14th, all of the movies will carry an MSRP of $39.98 and appear to be well worth it. Also announced today is the day-and-date with the DVD release of Ice Age: The Meltdown on Blu-ray November 21st. The rundown of the titles and their features is as follows:

Behind Enemy Lines: BD-J authored, DTS HD Lossless Master Audio and MPEG-4 compression. Includes several director commentaries and HD trailers for coming BD releases.

Fantastic Four: DTS HD Lossless Master Audio, HD Trailers, HDMV authored.

Kingdom of Heaven (Directors Cut): 50GB dual-layer Blu-ray disc to accommodate the 3 hour 42 minute movie DTS HD Master Lossless Audio, HDMV authored.

Kiss of the Dragon: Director commentaries, HDMV authored, HD Trailers.

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: BD-J authored, MPEG-4 AVC compression, special features including search index by actor/character/location and more, a first-person shooter game, up to 99 bookmarks, pop up animated trivia game and HD trailers.

The Omen (666): DTS HD Lossless Master Audio, director commentaries plus BD-exclusive pop-up trivia track The Devils Footnotes exploring the history of 666.

Speed: BD-J authored, DTS HD Lossless Master Audio, 56 category search index, Speed: Take Down Java game with six play modes and HD trailers.

The Transporter: DTS HD Lossless Master Audio, HDMV authored, director commentaries, HD trailers.

Twentieth Century Fox is obviously going the extra mile to show what Blu-ray can do in these initial releases, with features even Sony Pictures has put off until 2007 like BD-J. As the press release states, these titles and features have been chosen specifically to appeal to buyers of the Playstation 3 and Blu-ray early adopters. While you may be familiar with Blu-ray's advanced Blu-ray Java features obviously present in the BD-J authored releases, if you're unfamiliar with HDMV, that is the term for discs authored with simpler menus more reminiscent of traditional DVDs. While HD DVD has undoubtedly outclassed Blu-ray up to this point, it looks like the BDA's first strike back will come in November.

Now how long until the prices start to come down :o
 
Interesting, though most are re-releases that I've already seen or have on DVD. On top of that, some are pretty lousy films (particularly behind enemy lines, truly rubbish). Lastly, no comment about the video codec.
 
Having seen the IFA2006 seminar on Blu Ray

The advanced VC1 proper codecs will be used on some titles arriving for the
November launch of the PS3 which will be the first player in Europe offering
HDMI v1.3 for 1080p and Master Quality Audio in Dolby/DTS HD audio.

Warner announced that by launch they would have at least 10 titles available at launch but numbers will differ on European region. Expect prob around 50+ titles across most studios. Titles will be a mixture of both classics and new material. Paramount will release MI3 at the end of November.

* Codecs used will be based on the studio and MPEG2 will continue to be used alongside VC1 its really studio/title based each will co exist for now.

Sony also announced for their movies most titles should be day/date with DVD but certain titles with additional "java based" interactive features could come later. Regional coding is at the disgression of the studios depending on their launch program.

Aparently their may be as little as only 2x 50GB disc titles by the end of 2006.
Sony have had manufacturing problems and then ensuring these can play on hardware to be launched.

Hope it helps...
 
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A few good films and a few awful ones also, but no real knockouts to start with which is disappointing but at £20 each I dont think thats too bad ( seeing as some DVd's are £14 or more

Fantastic Four, Speed and Transporter and the ones I think are ok - I would have included The Omen, but its not the original but the recent remake which I havent seen so cant rate) and the Sean Connery flick League of Extra Ordinary Gentlemen isnt too bad either

The others are average at best imho
 
I just cant see blu-ray beating hd-dvd. I don't think people are going to want to buy a seperate player for blu-ray when hd-dvd is also compatible with dvd. Im not sure if blu-ray players will be too?
 
I can't see the justification for the price;
Why should I care that they are putting HD trailers on the discs, I've had enough of SD trailers on normal DVDs.
Games included on the discs? seriously why, this is meant to be a video player, documentaries and extras which add to the movie I can understand even if I don't watch them, but developing games to go on there as well?

I equate these developments with what happened in the mobile phone industry regarding picture/video messaging. Text messages weren't designed to be a feature used by the average consumer (remember when you couldn't send sms' cross networks?) but exploded into a massive source of revenue. So they developed MMS hoping to make even more by people sending picture and videos, didn't really take off the same way though did it. It might have been "better" but it wasn't enough better for people to want to use it, or pay for the privilege of doing so.
In the same way original DVDs had extra bits thrown on there because they could and it was cheap to do, turns out people quite liked the deleted scenes and other tidbits, but extending that into full blown FPS' and trivia games isn't a feature i'm going to want to pay more for.
 
nero120 said:
I just cant see blu-ray beating hd-dvd. I don't think people are going to want to buy a seperate player for blu-ray when hd-dvd is also compatible with dvd. Im not sure if blu-ray players will be too?

Yes all of them.
 
nero120 said:
I don't think people are going to want to buy a seperate player for blu-ray when hd-dvd is also compatible with dvd.

cough PS3 cough

May not be just a blu-ray player, but it will undoubtedly get the kit into people's living rooms no matter what the cost.

Once the PS3 starts being sold in wagon loads, then the drives themselves will come down in price by early next year at a guess.

Then it will be more a case of when rather than if combi players come out (a ricoh pc drive is rumoured to be already in the works ) and then its just a case of popularity of the media / films released on each variant
 
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