Blu-ray Player.. That'll be $1500 please

vaultingSlinky said:
I reckon HD-DVD will prevail purely on the basis its backwards compatable...have a dvd player and blu-ray on top of that.

Isnt it difficult/expensive to have dual format readers for blu-ray/hd-dvd because the light they use is different colour/wavelength

Yes, basically, dual format players will have a lot of duplication within them, including 2 completly seperate read heads. Even without worrying about dual format readers/players, blueray is still more expensive, both for the drives, and for the studios making the discs, but its got some big technical advantages, including 200gig discs vs hddvd's 60gig discs and much faster read times.
 
it doesnt have much faster reading times. I think they are pretty equal at certain speeds and its only when blu-ray is at 4x its 3% faster then HD-DVD cant remember exact figures but it wont be a lot faster for a while i imagine.
 
vaultingSlinky said:
Profit wins over expense, i suppose its a case of whether sony are brave enough to really push blu-ray through and spend enough money to make it a standard format. I hope they do, as it can store more (from what ive read HD-DVD just seems like a bodge job of improving dvds! /exaggeration)

You just have to remember when mini-discs were the next big thing (mini what i hear you cry? :D)


Given that for the Blu-Ray disk to hold 200gb is going to require something like an 8 layer disk I seriously cannot see much use ever being made of them.
A double sided dual layer DVD (DVD16) is more expensive than 2x dual layer DVD's because apparently the yeild is pretty low compared to the other DVD types (and that is for what is effectively a 4 layer disk).
I can't see the yeild/cost of the 200gb disks being such that blu-ray will use them very often if ever (how many DVD 16's do you see?).

Basically the option will be there, but the problems with making them*, and the costs involved will probably mean they won't be popular with the replication facilities or the distributors.




*each additional layer/step increases the chances of a problem arising during replication, and the wasted time and costs of disks that fail QC.
 
Berserker said:
I've still got a 20MB (yup, megabytes) hard disk. Worked last time I turned it off (circa 1994). What are the odds it'd spin up now if I tried to power it on? I'd love to give it a whirl (along with the PC it's in), but I'm somewhat scared of it doing something very nasty to my house. :(
Probably give you a headache from the noise, compared to a modern HD :)
 
Berserker said:
I've still got a 20MB (yup, megabytes) hard disk. Worked last time I turned it off (circa 1994). What are the odds it'd spin up now if I tried to power it on? I'd love to give it a whirl (along with the PC it's in), but I'm somewhat scared of it doing something very nasty to my house.
Snap. I'm pretty sure I've still got a couple of old ST-225s somewhere, and a couple of pseudo 40MB RLL drives from the same era. And that 338MB drive I mentioned was ESDI. I had a choice of ESDI or SCSI and I opted for ESDI. That was clever of me, wasn't it? :rolleyes: :(

Ah, the good ( :eek: ) old days. ;) :D
 
Dutch Guy said:
Why is it so much more expensive than HD-DVD?

You can get a HD-DVD player for $439.99

I think this is what will decide this format war. The HD-DVD player isn't that unaffordable, it's certainly cheaper than DVD when it first launched. Plus, it does have a better launch line-up of films. There's no 'Visual' benefit by plumping for Blu-ray so I think the cost factor could prove decisive.
 
vaultingSlinky said:
I reckon HD-DVD will prevail purely on the basis its backwards compatable...have a dvd player and blu-ray on top of that.

Isnt it difficult/expensive to have dual format readers for blu-ray/hd-dvd because the light they use is different colour/wavelength


Blu-Ray is backward compatible with DVD aswell.

www.blu-ray.com said:
2.4 Will Blu-ray be backwards compatible with DVD?

Yes, several leading consumer electronics companies (including Panasonic, Philips, Pioneer, Samsung, Sharp, Sony and LG) have already demonstrated products that can read/write CDs, DVDs and Blu-ray discs using a BD/DVD/CD compatible optical head, so you don't have to worry about your existing DVD collection becoming obsolete. Although it's up to each manufacturer to decide if they want to make their products backwards compatible with DVD, the format is far too popular to not be supported. The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) expects every Blu-ray Disc device to be backward compatible with CDs and DVDs.


If it interests anyone, a list of the main groups working on Blu-Ray

www.blu-ray.com said:
1.3 Who developed Blu-ray?

The Blu-ray Disc format was developed by the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), a group of leading consumer electronics, personal computer and media manufacturers, with more than 170 member companies from all over the world. The Board of Directors currently consists of:

Apple Computer, Inc.
Dell Inc.
Hewlett Packard Company
Hitachi, Ltd.
LG Electronics Inc.
Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.
Mitsubishi Electric Corporation
Pioneer Corporation
Royal Philips Electronics
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Sharp Corporation
Sony Corporation
TDK Corporation
Thomson Multimedia
Twentieth Century Fox
Walt Disney Pictures
Warner Bros. Entertainment
 
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