Blue Screen of Deeath ! ! !

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Hi,

i some times keep getting BSD upon shut down !
it happens now and again, perhaps twice a week, then weeks with no problems ! ?


my system is
Mother Board ASUS A7N8X-E vr 2.0
CPU AMD XP3000+
RAM Corsair DDR XMS 3200 2x 1GB matched Sticks
hard Drive WD Cavier 160GB
Op Sys XP Pro SP2
PSU tagen 580watt

any ideas
 
log file will be in control panel -> admin tools -> event viewer and normally under application logs. look for the red crosses.
 
I have checked the log file and copied the following,

Application Log

0000: 6c707041 74616369 206e6f69 676e6148
0010: 68532020 6954776f 652e656d 32206578
0020: 302e302e 2036322e 68206e69 61676e75
0030: 30207070 302e302e 6120302e 666f2074
0040: 74657366 30303020 30303030 30


is this to do with the BSD ?
 
Have you tried underclocking your memory to 333Mhz? I dumped 1Gb Corsair 3200TXLL Pro because it would not run at default settings. I replaced it with A Patriot 2Gb 3200 Exteme low latency kit and all my BSODs and soundloop crashes vanished. This may or mau not apply to your issues but underclocking your memory is a simple test.
 
Tysonator said:
I have checked the log file and copied the following,

Application Log

0000: 6c707041 74616369 206e6f69 676e6148
0010: 68532020 6954776f 652e656d 32206578
0020: 302e302e 2036322e 68206e69 61676e75
0030: 30207070 302e302e 6120302e 666f2074
0040: 74657366 30303020 30303030 30


is this to do with the BSD ?
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Excellent, if only those memory addresses made more sense. ;) On your next BSOD (expecting it will happen) :) be sure to record the actual error and disable automatic restart, I'm sure there will be something a bit more easier to decode than a list of addresses.
 
kbc said:
Excellent, if only those memory addresses made more sense. ;) On your next BSOD (expecting it will happen) :) be sure to record the actual error and disable automatic restart, I'm sure there will be something a bit more easier to decode than a list of addresses.
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LOL!

What don't you know what those addresses mean?? shame on you, go and stand in the corner and sing the "birdie song" while gargling on a pink Gin.


:p
 
the fact that you have posted in the memory section would suggest you have recently changed your memory?

Assuming this is so.. then check first that the ram is securely seated.

Check the timings in the BIOS are set to default (SPD) and that the memory voltages are correct to the manufactures recommendation.

Check that the frequency is correct (i.e. 400mhz ensuring that the RAM is set to a ratio of 1:1.

Go back to the older RAM and see is the problem still occurs.
 
Had a BSOD on start up recently, the boot up got to the windows log in page (ie displayed the user a/c's) then within 1/2 second bombed into BSOD.
Below is what i managed to write down from the screen before it rebooted.

NTFS Says: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGE_AREA
 
sounds like you might have increase your page file size. Just because you have 2gb memory, doesn't mean that swapping doesn't continue.

iirc the program instruction on any CPU addresses up to 4gb of memory, therefore page swapping still occurs on 2gb. The processor is designed to allocate less frequently accessed data to pagefile rather than in RAM. This makes sense because your RAM is constantly being refreshed (Dynamic) and considerable over head of large amounts of data are being held unnecessarily.


Typically your page file size should be at least 1.5 times the size of your Physical RAM and never less than.
 
Thanks Mr Huddy,
next question is, how do i change the paging size on my HD please
I am running a 160GB SATA HD on a A7N8X-E vr 2.0 MoBo which boots up as a third party drive.

many thanks
 
Sure...

Start>System>Advanced Tab>

Under perfomance click on the Setting button>Advance

Vitual memory is at the bottom of that dialogue box. click on Change.

Ensure you select the "Custom size" radio button, and enter 1.5 x the amount of physical RAm into the initial size (MB) and Maximum size(MB). then select OK.
 
Thanks Huddy, i spent a lot time the other week trying to find that setting window ! :confused:

many thanks for that info.

To date i have not had any problems. :D
 
Admiral Huddy said:
sounds like you might have increase your page file size. Just because you have 2gb memory, doesn't mean that swapping doesn't continue.

iirc the program instruction on any CPU addresses up to 4gb of memory, therefore page swapping still occurs on 2gb. The processor is designed to allocate less frequently accessed data to pagefile rather than in RAM. This makes sense because your RAM is constantly being refreshed (Dynamic) and considerable over head of large amounts of data are being held unnecessarily.


Typically your page file size should be at least 1.5 times the size of your Physical RAM and never less than.
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Have you read the baddass win xp tweak guide. It says that for 1gb you can sometimes turn off the page file and for 2gb its fine to turn it off.
 
ted34 said:
Have you read the baddass win xp tweak guide. It says that for 1gb you can sometimes turn off the page file and for 2gb its fine to turn it off.
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You always need the size of your ram and a little bit extra no matter how much RAM you have. Paging will always occur and disabling it under XP isn't a good idea.

XP will swap out items into the pagefile from memory that haven't been accessed for a while. This saves the memory address where the item was located from being refreshed constantly to keep it alive.
 
Street said:
XP will swap out items into the pagefile from memory that haven't been accessed for a while. This saves the memory address where the item was located from being refreshed constantly to keep it alive.
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exactly my point :) post 11 in this thread.!!

ted34 said:
Have you read the baddass win xp tweak guide. It says that for 1gb you can sometimes turn off the page file and for 2gb its fine to turn it off.
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I will check this out.. this looks like an XP oversight.
 
I idisabled my pagefile when went to 1gig of ram and didnt seem to make any difference. Have now got 2gig and still doesnt seem to make any performance difference by disabling it.
 
since i have increased the paging file size to 1.5 times that of my 2GB RAM, things have been fine.
There has not been one occurance on the nasty BSOD

Many thanks guys :D
 
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