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Any recommendations for a Bluetooth adapter for a turntable with RCA line level outputs. I want to feed a pair of headphones without setting up much else but the turntable.
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Blue tooth adapter for Rega Planar 1 plus
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So your plan is to degrade sound quality from vinyl to god awful Bluetooth?
Just connect headphone amp to the record player.
Are you're the rega is line level or phono level?
The RP1 Plus has an integrated phono stage IIRC, so it's got a line level out.
Taking a turntable and converting the signal to digital, compressing it, sending over Bluetooth, then converting back to analog. It's daft tbh.
CDs are an absolute steal at the moment, at least using them as the basis for a wireless listening setup isn't a fundamentally terrible idea.
Given most rca line-out is a rough standard pretty much any rca-Bluetooth adaptor should work. In the end you’ll be limited by the ADC in the base station, the bandwidth limiting Bluetooth standard and DAC in the headphones are gong to limit.
sort of thinking of a RP or a thorens to do up and modify. Probably re-wire and replace the preamp.
sort of thinking of a RP or a thorens to do up and modify. Probably re-wire and replace the preamp.
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Yep..................sometimes i despair of the lack of intelligence shown day in and day out on the internet.
O..... K....
Can you therefore help build my knowledge in the area by sharing your own knowledge and data to demonstrate the cause of your despair?
Note: I said your own knowledge and data and not something taken from the internet...
Come on.. some people just like the convenience even if it’s murdering the music #ipod/iphone
OP - do what’s good for you but you will get a better sound without putting it though the concrete mixer that is Bluetooth.
Indeed. Makes me laugh when the first response doesn't even know the hardware involved, and others go on to howl with outrage whilst having no idea why I need to do this at the moment. GD spilling over in to too many of the subforums these days.
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My knowledge comes from being 63 years old and actually spending most of my recorded music life coming from listening to LP's, not all of it, but most of it.
You have what is actually not a bad deck in the RP1 and as you have it, why are you even thinking of listening to Analogue via the worst of the worst digital source there is in existence ? I would presume you have it plugged into an amplifier ? Just use a head amp if your amplifier dosn't have one built in.
You can''t be listening from that far away from the deck to actually need Bluetooth, because let's face it...............you have to turn the LP over every 20mins at least.
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Indeed. Makes me laugh when the first response doesn't even know the hardware involved, and others go on to howl with outrage whilst having no idea why I need to do this at the moment. GD spilling over in to too many of the subforums these days.
Go ahead and ruin a perfectly good source by crapping out with audio over Bluetooth.
Lol
What you're planning to do is like buying Zonda and fitting a large plank of wood on the roof to bugger up the handling.
Do what you will.
I would also suggest buying bose whilst you're at it.
I would simply suggest you know nothing.
And your experience of listening to a vinyl source over a BT link is? Whilst I may listen to the odd piece of vinyl on my OK deck, at this moment I'm more interested in reconfigurable materials that can be used in indoor and outdoor environments to sustain the quality of a bluetooth link.
That's the oxymoron folk are picking up on.
Of all the recorded music formats, vinyl is perhaps the connoisseurs choice. The simple facts of handling the medium; let's face it, it's a faff. The whole ceremony of getting the disc out of its supplied double protective sleeve which you've then supplemented with an anti-static sleeve too (you have done that, right?), then doing some anti-dust performance with say a carbon fibre brush. Then carefully cueing the arm so that the cartridge tip lands perfectly in that little blank gap between the beginning of the etched groove that is the music and the disc's edge of oblivion.
You'll then go off for 15-20 minutes to do whatever it is you're doing that needs doing before the next step in the vinyl ritual of turning the disc over (with obligatory cleaning). At the end of play is yet another ritual process of putting the disc away which includes a final dust wipe of the last played surface.
Bluetooth is the antithesis of all of this. It's convenience above all other matters, including sound quality. It's the perfect partner to MP3 and CD rips. It's everything vinyl isn't, and vice versa.
I have to be honest and say that it's hard for me to imagine a scenario where "only vinyl will do", but it has to be played via a BT link to some headphones. Yes, sometimes the only version of some tune that exists is only on vinyl, but that's why file ripping exists. Transfer the music to a less fragile medium; something better suited to the digital world of the concrete mixer that is typical BT audio. That, or look to see if there are used CDs of the LPs you own that could be a more convenient tool if you prefer a physical medium.
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I don't disagree - The point is I am only interested in the performance/quality of the BT link i.e. what happens over the air propagation channel. I fully understand what the process will do either side of the propagation channel. The fact that I'm going to run some tests using a source I'm used to listening too is providing another angle to the work I'm doing.
OP welcome to hifi where its all about the gear and not about the experience or what you want out of your system.
Everything that has been said is correct. You are taking a good budget source and downgrading it by sending it across bluetooth. Listening to vinyl isn't a convenient way to listen to music.
But if its the way YOU want to listen to YOUR music then go for it. Bluetooth on a turntable isn't anything new budget brands have done it for years and more recently some respected brands have included it on turntables. Project and Cambridge both have bluetooth enabled turntables..... Cambridges offering comes in around £1500 so not exactly budget either.
With hifi comes a certain amount of snobbery that you will come across all over the internet. If you want bluetooth then pick up a bluetooth transmitter and enjoy your music, leave all the audiophiles to worry about how bad it will sound.
I have a respectable system for vinyl but like most people end up listening to music most while driving and thats going to be worse than bluetooth.
Everything that has been said is correct. You are taking a good budget source and downgrading it by sending it across bluetooth. Listening to vinyl isn't a convenient way to listen to music.
But if its the way YOU want to listen to YOUR music then go for it. Bluetooth on a turntable isn't anything new budget brands have done it for years and more recently some respected brands have included it on turntables. Project and Cambridge both have bluetooth enabled turntables..... Cambridges offering comes in around £1500 so not exactly budget either.
With hifi comes a certain amount of snobbery that you will come across all over the internet. If you want bluetooth then pick up a bluetooth transmitter and enjoy your music, leave all the audiophiles to worry about how bad it will sound.
I have a respectable system for vinyl but like most people end up listening to music most while driving and thats going to be worse than bluetooth.
In simpler language, you're interested in range and reliability then?
Yes, keeping errors introduced by the environment to a minimum. Primary application is current and future mobile tech in urban areas, but exploring other angles.
what Thorens Nick ?
Probably something used, probably a 160. I could probably fix the electrics for the motor as long as it’s windings etc are operational, bearing true along with the platter. I would then look to simply gut the tone arm electrics to expose MM/MC balanced outputs for a RIAA tube stage (like a differential Borbely style amp). A travesty but balanced common mode noise cancellation is far better than single ended RCA.
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