Blueyonder/Telewest speed upgrades

Spyhop · 11 Aug 2005 at 14:58

You don't really have a leg to stand on seeing as it's a free upgrade.

As someone else said, if and when substancially better services are out there then I'm sure the cable companies will match or beat them. If I'd been told a year ago that someone would be whinging about an uncapped 10Mbit/384Kbps service for £35 a month I'd have said they were crazy (and I still would).

Broken Hope · 11 Aug 2005 at 15:01

Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely 384kb upload isn't enough to handle the acks that a 10mb connection would require?

Which means people won't be able to reach max speeds and that's with no uploading going on.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showpost.php?p=548667&postcount=19

ThE-NiNjA · 11 Aug 2005 at 15:08

Broken Hope said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely 384kb upload isn't enough to handle the acks that a 10mb connection would require?

Which means people won't be able to reach max speeds and that's with no uploading going on.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showpost.php?p=548667&postcount=19

Thankyou.

Spyhop · 11 Aug 2005 at 15:13

You're acting like he's proven a point you never even made.

I'm no expert but I just tried maxing out my 2Mbit via HTTP download and the associated upload was only 30Kbit of my available 256Kbit.

ThE-NiNjA · 11 Aug 2005 at 15:14

wush said:
You're acting like he's proven a point you never even made.

I'm no expert but I just tried maxing out my 2Mbit via HTTP download and the associated upload was only 30Kbit of my available 256Kbit.

Whats your problem! i thanked him for the link!.

Matblack · 11 Aug 2005 at 15:16

Hmmm

Don't want to bring this up again but can you please try to be civil to one another.

On a seperate issue, how can a service such as the one I posted about (satillite/ dialup) work, this is offering speeds up to 16mb with a 56k upload? its a genuine question.

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Gadget · 11 Aug 2005 at 15:16

wush said:
You don't really have a leg to stand on seeing as it's a free upgrade.

As someone else said, if and when substancially better services are out there then I'm sure the cable companies will match or beat them. If I'd been told a year ago that someone would be whinging about an uncapped 10Mbit/384Kbps service for £35 a month I'd have said they were crazy (and I still would).

I'm quite pleased to be going from 2mbit to 10mbit, however it's my parents that have got the real bargain.

I had broadband installed as a retirement gift for them (and pay their bill) and opted for the basic 256k service at the introductory rate of £14.99/month. TW bumped that to 512k a couple of months ago and now it's going to 2mbit! Bargaintastic!

ThE-NiNjA · 11 Aug 2005 at 15:20

Matblack said:
Hmmm

Don't want to bring this up again but can you please try to be civil to one another.

On a seperate issue, how can a service such as the one I posted about (satillite/ dialup) work, this is offering speeds up to 16mb with a 56k upload? its a genuine question.

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Im not sure how it works, but i think because not many people use iot they can offer a high speed and not worry about the network getting hogged down, im not sure what there uplaods are either, altho the pings are bad , so no good for gaming but good for eveyrhting else.

tolien · 11 Aug 2005 at 15:21

On a seperate issue, how can a service such as the one I posted about (satillite/ dialup) work, this is offering speeds up to 16mb with a 56k upload? its a genuine question.

I'd suspect you'd have an issue maxing out constantly.

Vicar · 11 Aug 2005 at 16:47

I aint sure, the BY Newsgroups are pretty nifty for maxing current 4 meg connections... so would be interesting to see if the 10meg Conns do the same.... ? Happy days ahead, although I am tempted to go with 4 meg and pay half of what I am paying for 4meg the now.....

wolvotim · 11 Aug 2005 at 16:51

I’ve got to give them respect for sticking with the no caps even with a 10 meg line on offer

Big Kev · 11 Aug 2005 at 17:21

Matblack said:
Can the older surfboard modems cope with 10Mb?!!!!11

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That's what I was thinking, since I've not been able to get the latest speed increases with my SB4100, still tempted to go to F2S though, as they have a far better upload speed and is still cheaper, even though I'd only get between 6 and 8 download speeds.

Duke · 11 Aug 2005 at 17:48

wahoo 10mbit :cool:

can't wait!

Vicar · 11 Aug 2005 at 18:16

Big Kev said:
That's what I was thinking, since I've not been able to get the latest speed increases with my SB4100, still tempted to go to F2S though, as they have a far better upload speed and is still cheaper, even though I'd only get between 6 and 8 download speeds.

Shameless post from another forum, but answer's the question:

Sparhawk wrote:

The modems DO have data throughput abilities of sommat like 38Mbps.
The SB3100 has a 10BaseT ethernet port so THIS particular modem will suffer once BY officially rise to 10Mb and above because despite the modems ability to pull in data at higher rates, the ethernet port is limited (there is no USB port on the 3100)

The SB4100, 4200 and 5100 models and indeed the DPX100 (I think) and the EPC2100 ALL have 10/100BaseT Ethernet ports on them which is MORE than adequate to cope with higher transfer rates.

The USB ports on the 4100, 4200, and DPX100 are definately the older USB standard and INDEED they ARE limited to 12Mbps.

I'm not sure if the 5100 and EPC2100 have USB2.0 which can transfer data at much higher rates (400Mpbs I think.... I know Firewire is 400Mbps... is USB2?)

Bernard · 11 Aug 2005 at 18:20

Matblack said:
Who needs this huge upload speed?

Unless you are running a server or a business or illegally file sharing, none of which are considered legit by BY then I don't see the need, maybe I'm missing something?

For the majority of users a decent d/l with a good ping is the priority, what you can say for BY is that they don't impose a cap on their users which is one of the main reasons I stick with them.

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It will come in most handy for me, I play and test quite a number of MMORPG's, which regularly in beta stage release 1gig + updates, some days I have to download 3 gig + just for updates, the faster I can get it the better

jon86 · 11 Aug 2005 at 18:40

USB2 is officially up to 480 mbps but i've never heard of someone being able to get remotely near that sort of throughput yet.

Dave2150 · 11 Aug 2005 at 18:43

Danger Phoenix said:
What are people going to do with such speeds anyway... will websevers etc be able to cope with demands at these speeds?

obviously depends on the server, but loads of servers can support far in excess of those speeds.

Also very usefor for FTP transfers when you know someone with 10mbit down/up

Really thinking of moving closer to a BT exchange for 24mbit adsl2, or moving to a blueyonder area, 1mbit down sucks!

TriedandTested · 11 Aug 2005 at 19:06

Double the speed...ten quid less. ALL good news.

http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyonder/getContent.jspx?page=bbs_evenfaster

Same info i think, touting September as when it'll all start. Cool.

Type_R · 11 Aug 2005 at 19:16

Aye - having been one of the guinea pigs for the 10 mbit trial on BY, all I can say is this will be immense!

Just as I was about to leave TW BY, they give me something to look forward to. Well played!

Robert · 11 Aug 2005 at 23:16

ThE-NiNjA said:
people like you who are just satisfied with what they give is the reason why broadband is so exspesive and poor in this country, you just take what your given with my qquestions or rants. EXAMPLE being the price schemes! if you phone BY up and rant and moan they wil lgive you hald price for 12 monthes, but im guesing you pay the normal price.

Yes im complaining beause almost EVERY other BB provider in the uk stick to the 10% rule for uploads, hell even ntl are rummored to be sticking with it with 1 meg up on there 10 meg lines.

Blueyonder are doing to little too late, by the time everyone has been upgraded "xmas" im sure adsl2 will be soon to roll out, and 24 meg down and 3 meg up seems a lot more prosperouse

Talk sense mate. Their upload IS fine. WTF are you uploading to need more?