BMW 1M Stolen....

I'm very surprised how easy it was for them. It's kind of impressive how quickly they got away with the car and done zero damage from the looks of it.
 
SB118 said:
I'm probably being thick here (not the first time) but is there no longer a "mechanical" element (ie, keyblade -> pins) involved in the ignition system on these now?

Or is it a purely electronic system? (rf chip/proximity, etc)
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no key per se, it's just a fob you insert in a hole on the dash the rest is all chip related which is precisely what they program/copy via the the obd port.

it's retardedly simple to do and beggers belief that BMW haven't updated the firmware on their ECU/DME's to prevent this....
 
Barry Smalley said:
That's a fairly obvious solution to the problem but the system doesn't work like that. The key is programmed from the car as it is coded to the ECU - they don't build the cars around the keys. If your idea was to be implemented the car would need a new ECU if the keys got lost.
One of the main issues here is the location of the port and the 4" alarm dead zone. I think the E30's ports were under the bonnet and some vag car ports are built in the side of the dash, so the the door has to be open.
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That's part of the EU directive as well I'm told. Has to be within a set number of inches from the steering wheel to enable use of the port whilst being driven.
 
my new idea for a device is a key operated OBD port, piece of pee to wire up and would completely negate this method of theft.

curse my laziness, if only I had some business acumen
 
I'm told bluetooth OBD2 adaptors exist which can be utilised with a black market Android app to do the same job. Makes it even easier to do.
 
I think car owners are going to have to go down the same route as motorbikes, either wheel clamps, bolting the car down to an anchor via a subframe or just keep the car in the garage until the government puts a lengthy prison stay for car thieves.
I wonder if you could put RFID chips in the owner to prevent the car starting would be a good idea.
 
Abraxaz1 said:
I think car owners are going to have to go down the same route as motorbikes, either wheel clamps, bolting the car down to an anchor via a subframe or just keep the car in the garage until the government puts a lengthy prison stay for car thieves.
I wonder if you could put RFID chips in the owner to prevent the car starting would be a good idea.
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Thats not going to stop you unbolting it when you have a machette to your neck

If they want it, they will take it, end of.
 
Indeed, I'd rather theft without the key was possible but was challenging enough to put off opportunists - at the end of the day the car is insured. While I don't like the idea of my car being stolen, the fact it is possible means if someone does want it, they will manage it without bothering me for the key.

This however is a little too easy!
 
Lucero said:
Because he'd be able to run after it and......:p
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I think its more the case of him calling the cops.

If he doesnt hear it drive way it will be hours before he noticed and rings anybody. By which time the car will be in another constabulary and long gone. Possibly even in a shipping container somewhere waiting for a ferry.
 
anyon said:
I'm told bluetooth OBD2 adaptors exist which can be utilised with a black market Android app to do the same job. Makes it even easier to do.
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I don't believe I've seen a DME bluetooth unit, and besides the BT link is just another thing to go wrong, plugging the unit it wirelessly or wired to the OBD makes little difference. The BT unit is for people who like to look at dials and graphs and wonder when their manifolds will blow and passenger footwells will fall out ;)
 
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