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He says "highest clock" in his post.BUFF said:
C2D, see OP.BUFF said:
Not a given factor. See OP.BUFF said:
Nice post BUFF
just clarifying as highest clock doesn't always mean the best performance & most people actually want the best performance ...Robbie G said:
yes, but which 1 - an E6300 with a 7x multi or perhaps a quad extreme - again it will make a difference as to the best mobo
he said features needn't be taken into account not budget ...
well, as he hasn't specified the processor I think you have to assume he just wants the one with the highest maximum FSB limit, so it's probably one of;
ASUS Commando
Abit QuadGT
ASUS P5B-Deluxe
But I'm with BUFF on this one - he really needs to say what CPU he's using as for an E6600 or E6700 I'd take an Intel Bad Axe over a P965 board any day of the week, and then I'd spend about £400 having it blueprinted and variable resistors fitted to all the key voltage regulators so I could precisely tune the rig to the CPU. And then I'd slap a phase unit on it. The sort of thing Park Lane used to do (they would have been competitors, but they've gone bust again, so I think it's safe to mention them )
ASUS Commando
Abit QuadGT
ASUS P5B-Deluxe
But I'm with BUFF on this one - he really needs to say what CPU he's using as for an E6600 or E6700 I'd take an Intel Bad Axe over a P965 board any day of the week, and then I'd spend about £400 having it blueprinted and variable resistors fitted to all the key voltage regulators so I could precisely tune the rig to the CPU. And then I'd slap a phase unit on it. The sort of thing Park Lane used to do (they would have been competitors, but they've gone bust again, so I think it's safe to mention them
)I am indeed sorry for the slight.. err.. 'vagueness' of the original post
I'll elaborate a bit then, and as i am now intrigued a bit, i'll add a bit more too
OK, just motherboard to be taken into account, none of this blueprinting and phaze malarki, although watercooling is viable, but im assuming that watercooling isn't efficient enough to warrant modding the motherboard (except maybe the odd pencil mod)
1st off, the e6300/6400 based c2d, what would be best for these (extreme fsb really)
2ndly, the e6600/6700 range, again, ideally extreme fsb at max multiplier (or close to max, eg, 450x8 on an e6600 is obviously better than 400x9...)
3rdly, quad cores, now i was under the impression that these didn't clock as well as the dualies, but by all means, prove me wrong
The budget is infinite (well, it isn't, but i would basically like every option to consider)
Just fyi, i have a bfg 680i and an e6600 at the moment, and the 680i isn't the best board for clocking, although not bad. I have had the cpu in windows at 4050mhz, but it isn't stable at all, is rather toasty, and has way too much voltage going through it for me to be happy with.. (3.6 stable at 1.5v, i run it at 3.2 for temperature reasons... reasons being, it makes me feel happier)
I am basically just toying around with the idea of finding a very nice clocking chip and, well, clocking it
Cheers for the info so far guys!
I'll elaborate a bit then, and as i am now intrigued a bit, i'll add a bit more too
OK, just motherboard to be taken into account, none of this blueprinting and phaze malarki, although watercooling is viable, but im assuming that watercooling isn't efficient enough to warrant modding the motherboard (except maybe the odd pencil mod
)1st off, the e6300/6400 based c2d, what would be best for these (extreme fsb really)
2ndly, the e6600/6700 range, again, ideally extreme fsb at max multiplier (or close to max, eg, 450x8 on an e6600 is obviously better than 400x9...)
3rdly, quad cores, now i was under the impression that these didn't clock as well as the dualies, but by all means, prove me wrong
The budget is infinite (well, it isn't, but i would basically like every option to consider
)Just fyi, i have a bfg 680i and an e6600 at the moment, and the 680i isn't the best board for clocking, although not bad. I have had the cpu in windows at 4050mhz, but it isn't stable at all, is rather toasty, and has way too much voltage going through it for me to be happy with.. (3.6 stable at 1.5v, i run it at 3.2 for temperature reasons... reasons being, it makes me feel happier)
I am basically just toying around with the idea of finding a very nice clocking chip and, well, clocking it
Cheers for the info so far guys!
I think the BFG board you have, coupled with the E6600 you already have is probably as good a combination as you'll find as you can vary the RAM speed independently of the CPU and you have the capability to run upto 2400QFSB.
If you can boot into windows at over 4GHz then your problem sounds like cooling, not the motherboard. W3bbo is running the EVGA branded version of that 680i board with good water cooling at over 4GHz totally stable. And when you're into extreme overclocking you do need to take extreme measures like phase cooling. Certainly to get into the mid-4GHz area you will require phase cooling and to get the voltage ranges to you need at thay end of the overclocking spectrum you may well have to replace motherboard components.
Bottom line there are 4 legs on the overclocking stool;
The CPU - you need one that's capable of running high FSBs and a high multiplier (very rare)
The motherboard - has to be capable of generating the voltages and timings required to tight tolerances. The timings have to be PRECISE and the voltages have to be correct as too much is too hot and not enough is a failed overclock.
The Cooling - if the CPU or any chipset component becomes too hot, the overclock will fail.
The Overclocker - The loose nut behind the keyboard has to be able to set this stuff up, and be patient with it, analyse and determine what to do next when the last 30 things (s)he tried didn't work.
If you can boot into windows at over 4GHz then your problem sounds like cooling, not the motherboard. W3bbo is running the EVGA branded version of that 680i board with good water cooling at over 4GHz totally stable. And when you're into extreme overclocking you do need to take extreme measures like phase cooling. Certainly to get into the mid-4GHz area you will require phase cooling and to get the voltage ranges to you need at thay end of the overclocking spectrum you may well have to replace motherboard components.
Bottom line there are 4 legs on the overclocking stool;
The CPU - you need one that's capable of running high FSBs and a high multiplier (very rare)
The motherboard - has to be capable of generating the voltages and timings required to tight tolerances. The timings have to be PRECISE and the voltages have to be correct as too much is too hot and not enough is a failed overclock.
The Cooling - if the CPU or any chipset component becomes too hot, the overclock will fail.
The Overclocker - The loose nut behind the keyboard has to be able to set this stuff up, and be patient with it, analyse and determine what to do next when the last 30 things (s)he tried didn't work.
it actually isn't. Most 965s (QuadGT & the new DFI excepted) switch to the looser 1333 strap ~400fsb & that reputedly takes about 70fsb at the same clock speed to recover to the same performance level.V|per said:
again it depends upon the mobo - the Asus P5B Deluxe/Commando, abit QuadGT, DFI Infinity 965-S & the "fixed" eVGA 680i all will get into the mid 400s with a quad whereas many others will struggle to hit the mid-300s.
sounds to me as if you have a good chip & you aren't going to do significantly better on air with any mobo.I am basically just toying around with the idea of finding a very nice clocking chip and, well, clocking it