Boinc and SETI

I would like to agree with you, however i feel those stats are too mucked up to be of much use.

eg as of the time i write this, bully has two accounts, and steve of boinc uk is top, when in fact he crunches for a different team, under a difference user name. also an issue that a few of the teams don't get added into it due to the team name being slightly different.

anyhow pumpkinstew used to to a combined boinc stats news letter. not sure why he stopped.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17721653
 
a few of the teams don't get added into it due to the team name being slightly different.
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QMC & SIMAP were added a while back, I think the combined list now includes all BOINC projects that OcUK are competing in.
 
I do sometimes, but what's your point?
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No real point just an observation that those stats aren't that reliable. although i hadn't noticed that the other projects were now included.

thing is, i don't do the seti stats page, neither do you or the starting poster, so its up to him what he wants to post about. i'm just happy someone does it, as i think its showing signs of improving the output and raising the interest in the project.

But if someone started a combined boinc weekly stats page, alongside the seti and folding ones, i'd be all for it and probably post in it regarding parps, and stomps and all.
 
br83taylor said:
But if someone started a combined boinc weekly stats page, alongside the seti and folding ones, i'd be all for it and probably post in it regarding parps, and stomps and all.
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Bravo !

I dont cruch seti no more... got let down by the lack of credits from seti classic. I am however still one of the top crunchers for the team overall and wish to continue doing so.
 
br83taylor said:
anyhow pumpkinstew used to to a combined boinc stats news letter. not sure why he stopped.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17721653
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The short answer is I got too busy.
It wasn't really intended to be a stats list because that doesn't interest me as much as the science being done.
I don't think it produced any additional interest in the Boinc projects either, science or credits. So I just let it die.
If anyone else wants to give it a go, please do. :)

If as a team we organised ourselves and all crunched one of the smaller projects we might cause a few ripples again.
 
No real point
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Sorry br83taylor, that comment was meant for Subliminal Aura not you.

Your points are understood, and yes it would be nice for those who don't crunch Seti or F@H to have some recognition of there achievements.

Because of the diversity of BOINC, using the combined table might produce more competition & allow parping & stomps, but there aren’t many Boincers who post here.

You also have the pleasure of being the only person who bothered to Parp me! thanks.

The short answer is I got too busy.
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Shame it was a good read,
I have all the time in the world, but none of the skills needed, also a life long lurker.
I don’t think “we” will ever be able to compete even if we all crunched the same project, Shame!

Subliminal Aura, you must be crunching under a different name maybe shaf*?
 
Peter-B said:
Sorry br83taylor, that comment was meant for Subliminal Aura not you.
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The point being that we were the finest team out there trading punches with seti.germany.

Think people really need to know how low we really are these days, think its primarily due to crunching folding :rolleyes:

Peter-B said:
Subliminal Aura, you must be crunching under a different name maybe shaf*?
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Indeed
 
Unfortunately (before my time) we "were" the best team, but that was long ago.

I think that as a boinc team we are really just a collection of individuals going our own way.

The team really is F@H and they are out there with the best and competing.

If we really want to be a team would'nt it be better to join F@H and help push them further up the ladder! a team going up attracts new crunchers!

Heresy I know, but it would make sense! (ducks down to avoid incoming flack).
 
SETI has traditionally been OcUK's mainstay, where during the height of SETI Classic's popularity a SETI newsletter was run every week. For the last two or three years though, Folding has been OcUK's project of choice - in no small part due to rich99million's fantastic efforts in pushing it, as I believe back then he was the top producer in a very small team and wanted to get Folding@home noticed a bit more, and did this by creating a weekly newsletter. To say it worked is a bit of an understatement, because our Folding team is really doing rather well...

All I've aimed to do with my SETI news posts is to resurrect a bit of the ol' SETI magic that has long since disappeared from this forum and to create even a little renewed interest in the project. We finished in top spot in SETI Classic and were World #1 in SETI BOINC for a little while as well a couple of years ago, but with the amount and variety of projects now available for BOINC it's caused the team to be spread too thinly to be competitive in any project. SETI is also my preferred project, so there is a slight amount of bias here... :o

With that said, there are enough BOINC-wide stats sites out there to create a decent BOINC-wide newsletter which, as mentioned, would encompass all the BOINC users here so as not to alienate* the ones that don't run SETI. If people are interested, I could easily do a BOINC-wide newsletter in favour of one based just on SETI. I could even include some science updates in it, as Pumkpinstew used to do with the newsletter he ran a while back, but it would largely be about the stats.

Caveat:
  • As br83taylor pointed out, some members listed as being part of OcUK have since left but their stats remain in our BOINC-wide team list. This wouldn't be an issue when it comes to compiling the newsletter as at least one stats site flags such users automatically, so I can simply omit those that have left the team. I'm not sure if the team's overall total credit and RAC stats are skewed because of this though.
  • Users having more than one account won't make a difference to the team's stats - it just mucks their personal stats up. I suppose it does create rather superficial rankings when this happens, but I could always combine the stats if need be for duplicate accounts for the purpose of the newsletter. I'm actually only aware of one user having more than one account, so it's not difficult to rectify, and I could soon sort the stats by user to see if there are any more that pop up.

And yes, QMC@home and simap are both included in the combined projects list.

So am I to ditch the SETI newsletter and concentrate on a BOINC one? As I said, I'm happy to do either (but not both :p).


*See what I did there?
 
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TheTross said:
*See what I did there?
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:D

As you probably know I've long held the view that although SETI got the ball rolling there are far more worthy projects for your FLOPS.

As such I'd prefer the Boinc wide update.

Having said that my RAC of ~230 is never going to get me into the top crunchers list (:() and I'm not really a stats chaser anyway, so I won't be too miffed if we stick with SETI only.
 
br83taylor said:
too mucked up... and steve of boinc uk is top, when in fact he crunches for a different team, under a difference user name.
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Have just looked into stuff like this. Looking at this page, some members have a red circle to the left of their username. 'steve - Merlyn' has been flagged as such, and I think it refers to that user having either left a team, or contributing more credits towards another team. Or possibly as being a new member, I'm not really sure. Looking at his stats from that page though, it shows that he's moved teams. However, he's actually still listed as being a member of OcUK for numerous projects, which means that he's still a valid entry for our BOINC-wide stats. Shaf* is another case, where he's not in OcUK's Einstein@home member list (showing as not being in a team at all), but he is listed in the SETI stats for us, and thus appears on our All Projects list.

So in short, every member listed on OcUK's All Project list is still a member of the team for at least one project. The problem with the BOINC-wide stats are that they're inaccurate - 'steve - Merlyn' isn't contributing an RAC of 120,000+ for OcUK at all, because nearly 100,000 of that is for another team in one project alone. Looking at the two teams that he is in (ours and BOINC.UK), he appears at the top of the list in both with exactly the same stats. This is happening with other members as well - nine on the first page alone, with probably dozens of others. So the only way around this is to omit all users that are flagged as seemingly contributing the majority of their credits to another team, but that only causes more problems because now there are valid OcUK members that aren't in the stats at all...

Sorry for the ramble, but it suggests to me that doing a BOINC-wide newsletter could actually be a fruitless exercise because of all these bogus stats - unless anyone has any ideas, of course, because I am still up for doing a BOINC-wide newsletter :)
 
Jeeeeshus why am I red circled ?

Ahhhh

" Shaf* is another case, where he's not in OcUK's Einstein@home member list "

So I need to add myself to ocuk - einstein ? Hmmm didn't know there was one.

Linky help please
 
I don't mind which news letter TheTross does, but I am reluctant to stop my Seti and move to another project as it has been a 7 yr quest. I like the Seti newsletter as it promotes an old project and brings it back into the limelight which can only be a good thing...
 
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