Bottlenecking

3lackMamba · 1 Jun 2018 at 09:43

Hi guys

With the new gpu’s being right around the corner I am planning on buying an 1180 if all goes well, however I am currently running a 4670k (I’ll be upgrading to 8th gen later in the year) and am wondering will this completely bottleneck the 1180 or will it be acceptable until I get a new CPU?

Thanks

Lordgrayone · 1 Jun 2018 at 09:57

What resolution do you game at as that will make a difference?

3lackMamba · 1 Jun 2018 at 09:59

1080p for now

HangTime · 1 Jun 2018 at 12:08

What refresh rate? If 120hz or higher then bottlenecking seems likely in certain games. That doesn't necessarily mean the upgrade is a mistake however as it would help with more gpu-heavy games and you are upgrading cpu this year anyway.

3lackMamba · 1 Jun 2018 at 12:31

Nope just 60hz with my current monitor, so shouldn’t be too much of a problem unless I go over 4K/144hz? My main concern was battlefield, atm BF1 has my cpu under 100% load so I can only imagine how it’s going to be with BFV lol

Dirk Diggler · 1 Jun 2018 at 12:47

Bottlenecking won't be an issue at 60fps regardless of your resolution.

Randomface74 · 1 Jun 2018 at 12:49

1180 is overkill at 1080p 60hz

Dirk Diggler · 1 Jun 2018 at 13:08

billysielu said:
1180 is overkill at 1080p 60hz

He's planning to upgrade his monitor.

Randomface74 · 1 Jun 2018 at 13:10

Yeah, so do the GPU, CPU/etc, Monitor all at the same time. The CPU is at 100% already, so there's absolutely no benefit from upgrading GPU early.

3lackMamba · 1 Jun 2018 at 13:57

billysielu said:
Yeah, so do the GPU, CPU/etc, Monitor all at the same time. The CPU is at 100% already, so there's absolutely no benefit from upgrading GPU early.

Really, upgrading the GPU won’t make any difference at all until I upgrade the CPU etc?

Is this why I’m struggling to run constant 60fps on LOW settings on BF1 with a 770, is my CPU throttling?

Dirk Diggler · 1 Jun 2018 at 14:02

3lackMamba said:
Really, upgrading the GPU won’t make any difference at all until I upgrade the CPU etc?

Is this why I’m struggling to run constant 60fps on LOW settings on BF1 with a 770, is my CPU throttling?

Run Afterburner and see for yourself. If your GPU is 100% usage then the upgrade will be worth it.

Randomface74 · 1 Jun 2018 at 14:07

770 is pretty weak for BF1, that will be maxed out too, probably also finding itself short of VRAM.

3lackMamba · 1 Jun 2018 at 14:10

String said:
Run Afterburner and see for yourself. If your GPU is 100% usage then the upgrade will be worth it.

I’ll do that when I’m home from work! But if my gpu and cpu are both at 100% which I think they will be, then is there any sense in upgrading gpu now and cpu later or is it pointless like billy said?

I’d have thought/hoped it would make some difference, even make the game a bit smoother on low/medium settings at a slightly higher fps until I upgraded cpu.

Dirk Diggler · 1 Jun 2018 at 14:27

3lackMamba said:
I’ll do that when I’m home from work! But if my gpu and cpu are both at 100% which I think they will be, then is there any sense in upgrading gpu now and cpu later or is it pointless like billy said?

I’d have thought/hoped it would make some difference, even make the game a bit smoother on low/medium settings at a slightly higher fps until I upgraded cpu.

If the GPU is 100% then an upgrade would improve frames. I doubt the CPU would be 100% if the frames are that low.

Radox-0 · 1 Jun 2018 at 14:42

3lackMamba said:
I’ll do that when I’m home from work! But if my gpu and cpu are both at 100% which I think they will be, then is there any sense in upgrading gpu now and cpu later or is it pointless like billy said?

I’d have thought/hoped it would make some difference, even make the game a bit smoother on low/medium settings at a slightly higher fps until I upgraded cpu.

If your CPU bound already, then changing the Graphical settings may not changes things which impacts the GPU. With that said, I would have thought the 4670k could push at least 60fps. I would try tweaking / overclocking it if you can which may increase performance.

Kaapstad · 1 Jun 2018 at 16:03

Radox-0 said:
If your CPU bound already, then changing the Graphical settings may not changes things which impacts the GPU. With that said, I would have thought the 4670k could push at least 60fps. I would try tweaking / overclocking it if you can which may increase performance.

This^

I think a 4670k is fine for any resolution. Just give it a reasonable overclock and it will be fine. It is all about CPU clockspeed rather than if you have the latest thing from intel.

An i7 can improve the performance a bit in a few games but that is more to do with what the game does with the CPU rather than the GPU.

A trick in benchmarking is to turn off extra CPU cores and Hyperthreading, this does a couple of things.

1. It allows for a higher clockspeed on the CPU.

2. Although the CPU is now imitating an older CPU like a quad core i5 it still runs more efficiently than having all the cores and HT enabled in lots of situations.

3lackMamba · 1 Jun 2018 at 16:25

Okay I’ll overclock to around 4.2/.3 and see how that goes, only got a 212x cooler so I think that would be a reasonable clock.

Gah.. I’ve got so much upgrading to do :rolleyes:

Kaapstad · 1 Jun 2018 at 16:28

3lackMamba said:
Okay I’ll overclock to around 4.2/.3 and see how that goes, only got a 212x cooler so I think that would be a reasonable clock.

Gah.. I’ve got so much upgrading to do

If you are aiming for 4.2 or 4.3 you may not even have to increase the voltage so the overclock may not make much difference to the temps.

Dirk Diggler · 1 Jun 2018 at 16:28

3lackMamba said:
Okay I’ll overclock to around 4.2/.3 and see how that goes, only got a 212x cooler so I think that would be a reasonable clock.

Gah.. I’ve got so much upgrading to do

Run Afterburner and view the actual stats, that'll tell you what's going on.

3lackMamba · 1 Jun 2018 at 17:05

Brilliant! Thanks guys I’ll get back when I get some data