Bought some new components - how much did I mess up with memory timings?

NutterzUK

NutterzUK

NutterzUK

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Hi.

I like to play Amazon New World and currently run a AMD 2700x with a Geforce 3070. I'm not getting great FPS (Dropping down to about 15 regularly) and so I've decided it's time for a new processor/motherboard/memory.

In a bit of a hurry at the time (there was a today only offer on and I had kids with me), I've bought this:

MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI,
AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D, AM5, Zen 4, 8 Core, 16 Thread, 4.2GHz, 5.0GHz Turbo, 96MB Cache
32GB (2x16GB) Corsair DDR5 Vengeance Black, PC5-48000 (6000), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 40, XMP 3.0, 1.35V 7RFHB

I should have looked into it more, as I just saw "32 GB 6000Mhz" from a good brand and went with it. Only since buying it (and before building it) have I read that the CAS 40 isn't ideal.

My question is: How much is that likely to matter? If this was you, would you return it and put off building it just to get some lower timings, or is it going to make very little difference? The thing I'm kicking myself for is that CAS30 is about the same price and so I had no real reason other than not knowing to go for CAS 40.

Is it worth the faff of wrapping, posting and waiting in for another delivery or will this not make much difference at all because of the cache on the 7800x3D?

If it makes a difference; I'm looking to game at 5k/2k and I don't really care much for FPS over 60 for this game - it's an MMO that doesn't require super high FPS but the 15 I'm getting at the moment is horrible.
 
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Tetras said:
Not much, see here.
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This video is exactly what I wanted to see. Can see that we are looking at maybe 1-2fps difference, if any. In some places it makes no difference. I'm comfortable with that.

Jamin280672 said:
Can you not cancel it or have you already received it ?, lets just say my DDR5 runs at 8000mhz tighter timings than that, but I did go through a few kits to get where I am.
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Unfortunately, I've already received it. I can still return it though.


I think I'm going to keep it - that difference in performance really won't be noticed. I'm playing casually rather than competitively and don't get a huge amount of time to play. My main criteria is that it looks good and is playable. It doesn't need to be the absolute best of the best.
 
NutterzUK said:
This video is exactly what I wanted to see. Can see that we are looking at maybe 1-2fps difference, if any. In some places it makes no difference. I'm comfortable with that.


Unfortunately, I've already received it. I can still return it though.


I think I'm going to keep it - that difference in performance really won't be noticed. I'm playing casually rather than competitively and don't get a huge amount of time to play. My main criteria is that it looks good and is playable. It doesn't need to be the absolute best of the best.
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No I get that, I didnt realise it made that little of a difference with a 3D chip, mines not a 3D chip, no point, I hardly ever game, upto 17% with a non 3D chip
 
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NutterzUK said:
t's an MMO that doesn't require super high FPS but the 15 I'm gettin
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what resolution are you playing at, and what are your game visual settings at? do you have a lot of things on high, very high, or ultra?
if you are just trying to run the game at higher settings than your hardware can handle, then all you have done is waste time trying to fix a problemt hat could have been solved by turning some settings down.

as for how to adjust memory timings, you have to find the options in the bios to change the speed and timing of ram manually, it's just something you learn to do at some point, if you have never done it before, a quick rule of thumb, is that you can probably get the ram to go faster, especially if you if you increase the timing, and/or increase the voltage being given to the ram, or you can just see how low you can get the timing but at the listed speed then you use a memory testing program as you go, testing ram capability every time you get the ram to go faster speed, or lower timing generally you will find the highest speed your ram will go at, and then find out how low the timing will go at that speed my ddr4 is at 4000mhz, which is the listed speed, but the timing is tighter than a gnats arse, sometime I will get a crash in wow which I think is related to this though, so I should probably go for a faster speed overclock with looser timings

there is a program that scans your ram, and compares your current speed/ timings to other people with the same ram which gives you a best guess on where you should start speed, and timing wise, but I can't remember the name of it now

edit: I would have tried to get higher frame rates on my existing system, by playing with game settings, and overclocking my existing hardware, or bought a new GPU, whichj I had to do today because I have dramatically increased the resolution that i'm playing at, and I would like to hit 144 fps to go with the monitor's 144 refresh rate, I found classic wow stuttering a bit in a raid so, I've plumped for a second hand nvidia founder's edition 3090
I would not have decided to change the heart of my computer, because I know that it is more than enough to run a 3090 with ease
what is your current hardware, maybe you just need to get the best gpu you can for that

I think you have gone arse about tit here, it would have been better if you had made a post about how to get better fps with your existing system first really!then done a help me with a new system thread
I understand the appeal/stress of one time day specials on amazon though, but you could have armed yourself better before even looking

I'm dying to know what your current system specs are
double edit: memory timing mean not a lot compared to other things, like game settings and gpu, generally speaking
 
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