Boycott Peugeot

I have always boycotted Peugeot and the French in general. What we should be boycotting are any products from a state with the EU, France being the biggest offender, that puts in place protectionist measures contrary to the treaty they have signed up to. This situation is a prime example.
 
It is probably a waste of time for the workers at Ryton, the decision has unfortunatly been made :(

the decision sucks though, if you have a plant that is more efficient but has higher parts/transport costs due to it being in England then surely you move the parts work to the uk and close down the ineffiecient plant? One plant was always going to close, the new 207 was always going to be built in Slovakia but the UK plant got shut rather than the French one.

UK motor manufacturig has really had it's fair share of closures in the last 2 years, especially in the Midlands (Peugeot, Jaguar, Rover)
 
it may be a waste of time, but I guess it makes people feel like they didn't just take it lying down.

Some of the stuff people do isn't because they expect the results they are claiming they want - they know the decision won't be overturned, but they can get as much bad publicity out of it for the company involved, which is really what they're after.

Pigeon: and don't forget TVR Blackpool - gone now too :(
 
I don't think people are going to like this but i can perfectly understand why companies close factories/move products to other countries, i can'tsay as i like it but the fact is the eastern european and asian workforce seem to be more productive and cost efficient.

It seems lately that if as an employee you don't get what you want then the unions call a strike. In the case of Vauxhall it wasn't even an official strike, they just walked out! Why on earth as the employer would you then sit down with these people and negotiate.

Why don't these people ever just knuckle down and show that there are efficient and productive.

Recently we have had the fire dispute, my wife was a staunch supporter of there cause, that was until she visited many fire stations as part of her job, she found that the majority of the time the firemen she encountered were doing pretty much nothing and just hanging around. Some of the more senior fire fighter even admitted that they are dealing with less fires these days due to modern buildings and safety. No one disputes the dangers but surely they new that before they joined up.
 
I'm sure if you bought in a financial analyst from Peugeot and asked them to speak for an hour on why a particular plant was closed it wouldn't take them that long to show you why it was done.
So many people feel company's just do this kind of thing to annoy people - funnily enough they are a business and are in a business to make money.
They are not there to please anybody except their share holders.

So sure, let yet another petition appear - it's not as if "what the public" think has anything what so ever to do with the running of a company.
I'm certainly not going to boycott Peugeot.
I bought my first Peugeot just over a year and a half ago and love it to bits - I shall certainly look at the manufacturer again in eighteen months time when it comes time for me to change again.

Don't get me started on the fireman situation - everytime I drove past one of their stations during the "disputes" and saw them all standing there with their banners "Thanks for the support" etc I just wanted to wind down the window and shout "You haven't got mine!!"

Sergeant - Take those two men and get around that enemy post
Private - But they have got bullets
Sergeant - This is the army lad, of course they have bullets, now move
Private - This isn't what I signed up for *Wah, wah, wah*
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
so in response to the closure of the Peugeot plant in Ryton , Unions will initiate a campaign to inform the british people about the facts and ultimately boycott peugeot products.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5057970.stm

Am i the only one who finds actions like this , childish and a waste of money and time. People will forget about all this in a years or so.
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Peugeot are generally crap, yes.

BUT what on earth is wrong with these people? They aren't entitled to their jobs, its not their god given right to have it. Why do they moan?

AFAIK Peugeot is not a charity or a public service organisation which will provide jobs for people, its a business, and its there to make money. They don't want slackers, they don't want lazy workforce. If the UK can't supply that service that they need, they will go elsewhere!

It's like that airline catering thing that happened not too long ago.

Idiots, the lot of them (apart from Peugeot)
 
jamoor said:
BUT what on earth is wrong with these people? They aren't entitled to their jobs, its not their god given right to have it. Why do they moan?

AFAIK Peugeot is not a charity or a public service organisation which will provide jobs for people, its a business, and its there to make money. They don't want slackers, they don't want lazy workforce. If the UK can't supply that service that they need, they will go elsewhere!
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Agreed. In order to keep your job, you should be prepared to fight for it, and work your ass off in order to keep the work there. You shouldn't have a little tantrum about it, you should prove that you're indispensable.

If that doesn't work, you should accept the fact that you're due to be made redundant, and be one of the first out to give you a higher chance of getting a job in your area.
 
To those people saying that these workers need to work harder to compete with Eastern Europe - remember that UK workers need to earn enough to pay for UK housing costs, food costs, have lots of government legislation relating to working hours, safety etc . Eastern European workers aren't necessarily more productive, but they do have much smaller overheads and can live off much smaller salaries and are doubtless less regulated in terms of health and safety and working hours.
 
stoofa said:
I'm sure if you bought in a financial analyst from Peugeot and asked them to speak for an hour on why a particular plant was closed it wouldn't take them that long to show you why it was done.
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They might miss the bit about the quiet word the French government had with them about keeping the factory in France. If you know anything about Frnace and the intertwoven nature of government and business you'd know why it is called France PLC
 
Alasdair said:
Agreed. In order to keep your job, you should be prepared to fight for it, and work your ass off in order to keep the work there. You shouldn't have a little tantrum about it, you should prove that you're indispensable.
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They did, and increased efficiency at the plant by the target figure. Trouble is, why employ a British worker when you can employ a Slovakian for 1/5th of the cost? Ryton is a profitable plant, but not profitable enough. All that health and safety legislation gets in the way of maximising shareholder value.

I wasn't going to be buying a peugot/citroen anyway, but if I was I'd have changed my mind over this. I hope the boycott works.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
Am i the only one who finds actions like this , childish and a waste of money and time. People will forget about all this in a years or so.
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You're not the only one. Seriously, if I was looking at buying a new car I'd be more inclined to buy a Peugeot now, this annoys me so much - plus I'm betting they'll have some great offers if the sales fall! ;)
 
There are few tory boys in here!

1) You can not 'knuckle down' and be more productive than workers from the far east and eastern europe - can you live on 50p an hour? No, well they can.

2) Nobody disputes that it is financially very good sense for businesses to move to cheaper regions, but why would you be happy to get shafted for the benefit of the corporate purse? It may happen regardless but you don't have to enjoy it.

3) The UK gets more than it's fair share of these closures because our labour laws are shocking, put simply it costs a fraction of the price to close a UK plant than a plant virtually anywhere else in the EU.

We cannot do anything about point 1 and 2, but god knows why we don't do anything about point 3 - saving big business a few quid at the expense of the tax payer is not big or clever.

And before you say it there's no reason why small business couldn't be given get outs or benefits to help.
 
wsurfa said:
They might miss the bit about the quiet word the French government had with them about keeping the factory in France. If you know anything about Frnace and the intertwoven nature of government and business you'd know why it is called France PLC
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Obviously they would never shut down a French plant if there was a foreign plant that could go - but they have plants all over europe that could have gone first, just the UK is most convenient for dumping employees.
 
cheap labour doesnt mean a worse car though....Peugeot are not renowned for their build quality or reliability are they? good old 'made in britain'

maybe the slovakians can put the car together better...you only have to look at modern skodas to see the czechs can put together a solid car..well built and reliable..and turning a profit..good news for VW as their other arms are not raking in the cash
 
Wouldn't touch one again anyway. Bought a 206 brand new, dealer serviced and looked after all of it's short little life. Took it in for a full service just after the 3 year warranty expired they told me it needed 1ks worth of repairs (mostly due to corrosion).
 
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