***Breaking News: Alex McLeish new Forest manager***

lol'd at these stats. :D


OptaJoe (@OptaJoe) tweeted at 8:21 PM on Thu, Dec 27, 2012:

50% - Alex McLeish's win percentage as a manager in the Championship, compared to 24% in the Premier League. Appointed.
 
Managers like McLeish and his continual ability to get jobs gives Football Manager gods like myself hope.
 
No1newts said:
O'Driscoll was doing well, baffling.
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He spent a lot, (or his chairman did) ex prem players will be on big wages, Sharp, Cox, Collins, that Wolves guy, Hutton etc etc and they're very consistent, lost 3 out of the last 6. Still, harsh not to be given the season really.
 
To be honest it was a bizarre appointment in the first place. They either go big (Harry or someone) and throw out the cash to try and get 1st or 2nd...or do what they did but give the manager time and try to limit spending and go through the playoffs. I don't think O'Driscoll would have been the guy even after a season though.
 
seems stupid, having given him the money to spend, at least give him a season.

can't see that mcleish will do much better.

thought sharp was brought in on loan from southampton ?, O'Driscoll got him playing well at doncaster rovers and he did well at championship level, him and cox should link up pretty well.
 
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Tummy said:
Managers like McLeish and his continual ability to get jobs gives Football Manager gods like myself hope.
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Also makes a mockery of the people who always come out with the "if you're better why aren't you a manager" type arguments as to why a fan can never highlight a mistake a manager has made.

Managers get jobs when they have exactly no right to do so at all, with no proof they can do the job well. To some degree it is an old boys club, its who you know, and people's daft impression. Mcleish by way of being a manager in the premiership automatically gets on a list of "managers who were good enough to be in the premiership before" when people look for a new manager. If you were the worst manager ever in the premiership doesn't stop you being on that list, and plenty of owners/directors of football and other people are the same kind of people, ex managers or footballers someone has put trust in who are equally inept themselves.

I mean, if Mcleish ends up a director of football because some owner thinks based on being a premiership manager before he is qualified for the job, then who would Mcleish suggest to manage the club... he might be a good director of football, but he might equally recommend a completely crap manager, a player he liked to work with, a friend of a friend, whatever.

I don't think there is many clubs in the world who don't have some level of nepotism or cronyism going on. How many managers or ex footballers have some crap footballer son/nephew playing somewhere who got chance after chance off their name rather than talent.
 
Didn't see this coming...

Heard about the sacking and the words "Premiership manager" and "January transfer window".

Was left thinking they were going to appoint a big name (for want of a better term) and start spending big (I guess this stll may happen).
 
Heh.

Was watching rambo 3 the other night, quote "we allready had our vietnam"

Well.. any forest fan will tell you "we allready had our alex mcleish"

Thats right, Gary Megson!!!

Heh, well you never know, If it all goes tts up big baz.. i dont see mcleish getting the fans in the dressing room at the end of the game to explain it all.

How low it got before:)
 
Goalposts obviously changed, we bought into a 2-3 year plan to get promoted the right way and O'Driscoll was instilling an ethos and way of thinking from top to bottom in the club, that takes time but arguably the results would be better in the long run.

Now we're going for broke and given that automatic promotion is nearly impossible this season it seems pretty daft.

A very good man and manager has been treated shabbily in my opinion, the target for this season started out as top 10 which we were well on for, if not exceeding.

No choice but to get behind McLeish now but I can't see us going on a blinding so it makes me fearful for the future.
 
Honestly mate, you belive that about the plan.

The tv deal mate, we spend say 20 odd million on the team, worth so much more if we get there... thats pretty much whats been going on. We've snapped up anyone of available quality, overloading the team from front to back, and it doesn't end till the end of january by the sound of it.

If we don't get up, then you fret for the future... all that money will sit on the books, totaly unsubstainial on a championship budget.

We should be banging down the doors now telling them to stop, not be happy that they're doing this, my take is you lose the right to moan about it when it all goes pop.
 
drunkenmaster said:
a manager in the premiership automatically gets on a list of "managers who were good enough to be in the premiership before" when people look for a new manager. If you were the worst manager ever in the premiership doesn't stop you being on that list
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Although I agree in principle I think Tony Adams is the exception that proves the rule.

To a lesser degree you get the same with players, big names who get a big money move, flop, and then they get another deal somewhere else. Take Veron, he was a £27m player at MU but despite not setting the Prem alight became a £15m player at Chelsea. In Italy especially I've seen plenty of players handed around top clubs Juve, Milan, Inter, Roma etc with at least 2-3 of them on their CV, which you don't tend to see so much in England.
 
Still not sure why Leicester seem to dislike us but ok, it's a bit like Notts County I guess.

The football was pretty good yesterday, granted he wasn't officially in charge or had much time, there's little point adjusting our style of play hugely so I don't envision it changing much.
 
Well well well... 40 days is it? And he's left by mutual consent.
 
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