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Broadwell delayed?

All the "article" (and I use that term lightly) says is that Broadwell was delayed, which we already knew; there's no new information here.
 
Technically Broadwell has already launched, Core M late last year and the 15W Ultrabook chips launched this year at CES and has been in shipping products for a few weeks.

It has been delayed a lot vs. the original planned launch, but a staggered launch from low power to desktop is pretty normal for Intel in the last few generations.
 
Newest updates on news seem to suggest that broadwell desktop chips might be canned, along with broadwell-e.

If they decide to do that, people expecting an upgrade on the same socket aren't gonna be too pleased.

Wonder if Skylake is going to be launched earlier.
 
I guess the x99 platform is dead already if they have decided to not to even make broadwell-E which was the
only further processor upgrade we know intel had officially announced was getting released for this platform.

If this news is true than it is not good news for us that have just upgraded to the x99 platform
now knowing the processors that where released with the platform is all this platform is getting,
and this platform no longer has any future proofing. No further processor upgrades.

Unless they have other plans for this platform like releasing a high end Skylake on this platform.
 
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Perfect_Chaos said:
Newest updates on news seem to suggest that broadwell desktop chips might be canned, along with broadwell-e.
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Where did you get that info ?, Link please.

If this is true Intel will of just miffed off a butt ton of people, A lot of people including myself only bought into Z97 due to Broadwell.
 
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Perfect_Chaos said:
It's posted on wccftech, main source from bitsandchips.it
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would have been extremely handy if you could have just posted a link ;)


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I'm gonna call BS on the article, The "Leak" suggests they are having troubles with thermals because of the micro arch at 14nm, Surely this would delay Skylake as well seeing as it's made on the same piece of glass and it's the same size.

To quote someone who seems to know their stuff -

Issues like overheating are found well before production or what we say IP (initial production), as a Physical designer it is our job to not only design them but to also simulate power analysis and then correlate that with actual first revisions of the chips fabbed out from the foundry. Most of the issues are caught well ahead of time in simulations, to understand why you need to have a background into EDA which I will not get into here as that is not the point. By the time the first revisions are out we face very little surprises if any in terms of thermals, most of the time it is timing related problems when the chips are having so many wires in them with complex blocks playing up with stage delays, setup/hold time violations (Slack) etc these we interact with the front end teams and sort out.

If at all there are any production issues at 14nm for larger dies like desktop chips and K series then that affects the other products as well regardless of the microarch differences because they are on the same process. If broadwell - desktop wafer lots are facing issues then Skylake - desktop chips are facing the same issue on the same process. Once these issues are sorted they push their broadwell iterations to the market, no one in this industry bins an iteration unless they are under serious pressure from competition, which in this case from AMD is non existent. They don't have to give a second thought, the consumer/enthusiasts can't do anything, they will complain but in the end they will settle for what is available because Intel is the virtual monopoly at the sharp end of x86. With small gains in terms of real world apps per generation now from Intel, most don't really have a reason to complain either, enthusiasts are a minority even if very vocal.

Qualcomm is getting their chips Fabed from a different foundry, different issues and it's not even really understood because they are keeping those well under wraps, my understanding is it's hardly a big deal not process related at all. People have this misconception that if one foundry has issues it's the same issue faced by the other foundry. To understand why this is wrong they need to have an understanding of processes and the various huge differences in the technologies involved. People read casual articles online and think they have understood what the issues are and give out arm chair advice.
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Sylver123 said:
I guess the x99 platform is dead already if they have decided to not to even make broadwell-E which was the
only further processor upgrade we know intel had officially announced was getting released for this platform.

If this news is true than it is not good news for us that have just upgraded to the x99 platform
now knowing the processors that where released with the platform is all this platform is getting,
and this platform no longer has any future proofing. No further processor upgrades.

Unless they have other plans for this platform like releasing a high end Skylake on this platform.
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I'm very confident that X99 will get Broadwell-E chips to upgrade to in 2016.

Intel have a long tradition of releasing two generations per platform, for the extreme series and xeons. I can't see them breaking this trend.
 
Dave2150 said:
I'm very confident that X99 will get Broadwell-E chips to upgrade to in 2016.

Intel have a long tradition of releasing two generations per platform, for the extreme series and xeons. I can't see them breaking this trend.
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I would be all for it if they decided to ditch Broadwell-E in favor of a Skylake release on this platform instead.

I am sure others would really like this to happen too.
 
Sylver123 said:
I would be all for it if they decided to ditch Broadwell-E in favor of a Skylake release on this platform instead.

I am sure others would really like this to happen too.
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Trouble with that is that skylake will probably be a whole new design - so current x99 boards probably wont support it - hope this is not the case though.
 
When Intel say Skylake this year, why are people assuming it's Desktop parts? It could be Mobile parts, which given Broadwell-M launching last year, would make sense.
 
Martini1991 said:
When Intel say Skylake this year, why are people assuming it's Desktop parts? It could be Mobile parts, which given Broadwell-M launching last year, would make sense.
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Indeed, desktop Skylake K probably well into next year I'd imagine Q3 maybe?

If people know it's coming so soon after Broadwell then they'll just skip that altogether, they need to leave enough time to actually sell Broadwell otherwise it'll just be stillborn.
 
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