Broadwell E & Skylake E release dates ?

Kaapstad · 17 Mar 2016 at 10:41

Broadwell E & Skylake E release dates ?

Does anyone have any up to date info when either of these are likely to be released please.

Ayahuasca · 17 Mar 2016 at 10:53

Q2 for Broadwell-E apparently

Skylake-E could be Q1 2017

Yaayuh! · 17 Mar 2016 at 11:06

If i remember correctly:

Broadwell-E is Q2
Skylake-E was meant to be end of the year but got moved apparently to Q1 2017.

There was also talks of skipping straight to Skylake-E due to how close they were. But i think that was just a rumour.

Ayahuasca · 17 Mar 2016 at 11:09

I hope they don't skip Broadwell-E, I've got an itch at the moment and keep making X99 baskets before closing the tab and telling myself to behave until some new CPU's arrive.

theMilitant · 17 Mar 2016 at 19:23

^^Definitely doing the right thing in not buying x99 now. Too close to drop that much money with Broadwell-E release just around the corner.

Ayahuasca · 17 Mar 2016 at 19:27

Spoke too soon and ordered anyway, the Broadwell-E CPU's will fit X99 motherboards so unless new X99 motherboards offer some drastic new tech then I can just sell the 5820k down the line and drop a Broadwell-E in

Perfect_Chaos · 17 Mar 2016 at 20:02

Sort of related but, what do people think is going to happen when Zen comes along? Since it's rumoured to be about level with Broadwell in IPC, will Intel up the core count on their mainstream chips next year like has been suggested with Cannonlake?

theMilitant · 18 Mar 2016 at 00:52

Ayahuasca said:
Spoke too soon and ordered anyway, the Broadwell-E CPU's will fit X99 motherboards so unless new X99 motherboards offer some drastic new tech then I can just sell the 5820k down the line and drop a Broadwell-E in

Lol. Enjoy then anyway. Sometimes it's just too hard to not scratch that upgrade itch

mmj_uk · 19 Mar 2016 at 09:19

theMilitant said:
^^Definitely doing the right thing in not buying x99 now. Too close to drop that much money with Broadwell-E release just around the corner.

The chipset will remain the same so new boards won't change much aside from a slightly more spectacular name and funkier colours.

Perfect_Chaos said:
Sort of related but, what do people think is going to happen when Zen comes along? Since it's rumoured to be about level with Broadwell in IPC, will Intel up the core count on their mainstream chips next year like has been suggested with Cannonlake?

LGA1150 are based on their mobile processors so they won't change them, if AMD do pull a rabbit out of the hat then all Intel have to do is drop prices accross the board.

~>Dg<~ · 19 Mar 2016 at 09:23

theMilitant said:
^^Definitely doing the right thing in not buying x99 now. Too close to drop that much money with Broadwell-E release just around the corner.

depends how you look at it.

waiting for next to nothing increase.look at past 5 years of intels release.that wont suddenly change.

theMilitant · 19 Mar 2016 at 10:07

^^True, there hasn't been much progress over the past few years. But the optimist in me hopes the move to 14nm is going to change that trend. For the sake of a wait of a month or two I'd be willing to chance it

Dave2150 · 19 Mar 2016 at 15:01

Perfect_Chaos said:
Sort of related but, what do people think is going to happen when Zen comes along? Since it's rumoured to be about level with Broadwell in IPC, will Intel up the core count on their mainstream chips next year like has been suggested with Cannonlake?

Zen will most likely have Ivy Bridge levels of IPC, if they are lucky.

Don't fall for the hype, AMD are desperate and so exaggerate all claims atm.

Besides, Zen is a 2017 product, unless it gets delayed. By then we'll have Kabylake and Skylake-E.

Caracus2k · 20 Mar 2016 at 23:47

Rossi~ said:
If i remember correctly:

Broadwell-E is Q2
Skylake-E was meant to be end of the year but got moved apparently to Q1 2017.

There was also talks of skipping straight to Skylake-E due to how close they were. But i think that was just a rumour.

If anything gets dropped my money is on Skylake-E. Why? it will be a 14nm set of processors likely with 6 - 10 maybe 12 cores for the 'Enthusiast' line if it was to be released (in 2017 most likely). The problem is that Intel would be due to release 'Consumer' 10nm Cannonlake shortly afterwards (H2 2017)which is widely believed to be the first 'Consumer' CPU from Intel to come with 6 (+) cores.

Skylake-E would be a bit of a hard sell because of this (the Enthusiast roadmap lagging behind the consumer one)

Whose going to pay £££ for a 'premium' Skylake-E CPU and motherboard when a 6/8 core consumer CPU on a smaller node is snapping at its heels

Dave2150 · 21 Mar 2016 at 02:35

Caracus2k said:
If anything gets dropped my money is on Skylake-E. Why? it will be a 14nm set of processors likely with 6 - 10 maybe 12 cores for the 'Enthusiast' line if it was to be released (in 2017 most likely). The problem is that Intel would be due to release 'Consumer' 10nm Cannonlake shortly afterwards (H2 2017)which is widely believed to be the first 'Consumer' CPU from Intel to come with 6 (+) cores.

Skylake-E would be a bit of a hard sell because of this (the Enthusiast roadmap lagging behind the consumer one)

Whose going to pay £££ for a 'premium' Skylake-E CPU and motherboard when a 6/8 core consumer CPU on a smaller node is snapping at its heels

It's only a rumor that Cannonlake will feature 6+ cores. Nothing confirmed yet, so no point worrying about something that isn't certain.

DragonQ · 21 Mar 2016 at 08:54

Dave2150 said:
It's only a rumor that Cannonlake will feature 6+ cores. Nothing confirmed yet, so no point worrying about something that isn't certain.

Indeed. Ever since Sandy Bridge there's been "rumours" about the next generation consumer chips featuring up to 6 cores.

Zen might change their plans, of course.

uncle_rufus · 21 Mar 2016 at 09:32

I'm in much the same boat as Ayahuasca - Need to upgrade very soon and tempted to wait for Broadwell-E, but at the same time kind of expecting it to not be that impressive of an upgrade so might as well just go 5820K now...

Incidentally why is the price of the 5820K climbing so much lately? I'm sure they were under £300 not too long ago, now practically pushing £340?!

Cromulent · 21 Mar 2016 at 11:30

Hopefully the Skylake-E does come out in Q1 2017 as that is what I am planning on upgrading to next.

AllBodies · 21 Mar 2016 at 21:10

Dave2150 said:
It's only a rumor that Cannonlake will feature 6+ cores. Nothing confirmed yet, so no point worrying about something that isn't certain.

This is true, but it is getting a tad ridiculous how small the die sizes of the 4 core mainstream parts are getting.

Intel is selling us 4 skylake cores at significantly smaller size than 4 sandybridge cores were. They're just massively profiteering on the 4 cores at this point.

Gze · 21 Mar 2016 at 21:42

Hope AMD push intel to make 6 core mainstream i7.

Caracus2k · 21 Mar 2016 at 23:16

Dave2150 said:
It's only a rumor that Cannonlake will feature 6+ cores. Nothing confirmed yet, so no point worrying about something that isn't certain.

Its almost a certainty. Intel have very little mileage left in the 4 core/ 8 thread 'premium' i7 consumer chip so the only realistic options for them are more cores and/or changes to how the chip links to system memory.

Kabylake will almost certainly be the last hurrah for a top end 4c8t i7 CPU.

Feel free to come back and quote me when Cannonlake is released sometime in 2017....(I would have course still expect some 4c/8t Cannonlake CPU's just the top end will move on to 6 or 8 cores)

It would have course only be fair to point out that 'Skylake-E' is only a rumour at this stage. I think I have however made a coherent argument as to why a 14nm premium/ Enthusiast CPU based on a die design that will be around 18mths - 2 years old at time of release may be skipped in favour of something that will offer more of an edge over the 10nm consumer CPU's expected in 2017....