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Broadwell Preview (anands)

~5% IPC gain is unsurprising.

If overclocking was once as good as Sandy bridge, then these chips would gain more than lukewarm reception.

I'd be surprised if Skylake was anything over than 5% IPC too (But I expect hexcore's on the mainstream socket)

Broadwell's main appeal will come in what it can do to MS's new X86 tablet, and Ultrabooks.
 
Flying_Hellfish said:
Progress on IPC is so slow these days.. when will we see the next step forward in arch?
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There won't be big IPC progress in Intel chips step-by-step for the foreseeable future. Was talking with an Intel chip designer and he said by now all the low-hanging fruit for IPC improvement was pretty much gone, making any further improvement a massive grind for them, whereas this means ARM designs are currently rapidly advancing. But they will start hitting a wall soon too.

Lower TDP is where most of the money is anyway for them.
 
Doesn't sound like there'll be any game changers on the horizon in terms of desktop CPU's/performance but it'll be nice to see more efficient, and in particular fanless, CPU's start appearing on the laptop/tablet side.
 
silvagti said:
Doesn't sound like there'll be any game changers on the horizon in terms of desktop CPU's/performance but it'll be nice to see more efficient, and in particular fanless, CPU's start appearing on the laptop/tablet side.
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I won't accept any "leaks" until the cpus are out however while the alleged +5% is not much from haswell to Broadwell - the difference will be elsewhere eg TDP and overall efficiency.

It is most apetizing for a jump from 1st gen to 5th gen than 4th to 5th...

more so for the laptop market...the increased efficiency of the cpu + ram + gfx (nvidia maxwell) means that laptops are in a much better position to become mainstream mobile "desktop" use as the battery life is the main issue for laptops problems outside of power sockets...

would be looking at a good alienware laptop for 5th/6th gen intel + gtx 800 or later series...
 
Any one expecting anything more than a laptop/tablet part is a foo'.

Intel are done beating AMD. Now they need something which will actually make them money.
 
5% is still 5% faster an a given clock. Improvement is always good :)

Sadly for AMD this puts them further and further behind, if Skylake adds another 5%, thats a cpu 10% faster than devil's canyon that the new 2016 AMD chips will have to compete with.
 
Thing is these "5%" and "10%" improvements aren't in games or even general use, it's certain synthetics and a few workstation type workloads. Plus the newer arch's can't touch Sandy for clocks. So it just evens out or actually leaves with you slightly less performance 4 years after Sandy shipped. :(
 
///looks at 4.8ghz 24/7 2600k///

please intel make me shut up and give you some money, certainly won't be investing in new architecture and cpu for a poor clocking barely better chip :(
 
about + 5% isn't worth bothering with and these new Haswells will be the same too.

but one of these will probably be good at overclocking... whereas the 4770 of similar performance isn't, it just depends if 4.8 over 4.4 is worth £280 or more

think about it..........1080p ..... dual card GPU......frame capped....console port....no :cool:

you'll be fine with only 4.0 because any loss of performance will be made up by having a massive GPU, as long as it's not bottlenecked..........i think !!!!
 
Mal X said:
about + 5% isn't worth bothering with and these new Haswells will be the same too.

but one of these will probably be good at overclocking... whereas the 4770 of similar performance isn't, it just depends if 4.8 over 4.4 is worth £280 or more

think about it..........1080p ..... dual card GPU......frame capped....console port....no :cool:

you'll be fine with only 4.0 because any loss of performance will be made up by having a massive GPU, as long as it's not bottlenecked..........i think !!!!
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broadwell is not much of an IPC upgrade its actually a massive all in one APU efficiency upgrade...

1 thing Intel lagged behind AMD with is CPU graphics...they've concentrated on cpu data and not the graphics portion until haswell.

Broadwell is a massive step to crush AMD's APU market thus controlling the budget end as well as high end cpu markets.

speculating that an i3 broadwell would crush anything AMD has...
 
its only worth it if your buying new parts to begin with

as for upgrading there's no point from sandy onwards imo,unless your running xfire/tri fire and super res

unless you like the smell of new components,then that's absolutely fine:D
 
Mal X said:
you'll be fine with only 4.0 because any loss of performance will be made up by having a massive GPU, as long as it's not bottlenecked..........i think !!!!
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Currently running my 4790k at stock, and tbh im not seeing any problems with games using gtx 780 sli.
 
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