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pr0xibus

pr0xibus

pr0xibus

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Morning guys.

Since having this Nvidia 650Ti i seem to be having the BSOD on startup or a black screen. Both will happen unless i actually press the reset button on the case and then it will boot fine.

I have done 2 clean installs of Win 7 Pro fully updated, one with using the windows drivers and the other downloading the latest from Nvidia, but it still has the same problems.

Specs

AMD FX8320
1 x 8Gb Corsair XM3 Ram
Asus M5A97 Motherboard
Nvidia 650TI Graphics Card


Minidump below

Code: 
Crash dump file:        C:\Windows\Minidump\120413-23883-01.dmp
Date/time:              04/12/2013 06:13:54 GMT
Uptime:                 00:00:29
Machine:                WINDOWS-DESKTOP
Bug check name:         VIDEO_TDR_ERROR
Bug check code:         0x116
Bug check parm 1:       0xFFFFFA8007782010
Bug check parm 2:       0xFFFFF88011245034
Bug check parm 3:       0x0
Bug check parm 4:       0x2
Probably caused by:     nvlddmkm.sys
Driver description:     NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 331.65 
Driver product:         NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 331.65 
Driver company:         NVIDIA Corporation
OS build:               Built by: 7601.18247.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532
Architecture:           x64 (64 bit)
CPU count:              8
Page size:              4096

Bug check description: 
This indicates that an attempt to reset the display driver and recover from a timeout failed. 

Comments:

A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: nvlddmkm.sys (NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 331.65 , NVIDIA Corporation).

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Currently away to try the beta drivers too see if this will solve it

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Installed Beta drivers and still the same problem on boot
 
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The stop error seems quite random and there could be a number of things causing it. Been looking up the error for about 25 minutes now and I can't really find anything solid on it. If it were me and if the computer boots fine after a restart I'd get back into windows and start running diagnostics and monitor temperatures and voltages to look for potential causes.
 
I'd run a memtest

Can you try the card in another machine?

What power supply are you using?
 
I gave a shot of the card to my cousin and he reported no problems he is running AMD fx8350 with 16gb ram.

Currently running the beta drivers and still the same problem.

Will run a memtest soon and power supply is powercool extreme mod 650
 
Right updated BIOS to latest one from last month, installed windows 8.1 too see if that makes any difference. Computer will freeze when woken from sleep. I also restarted the computer and as soon as i double clicked Chrome icon the computer shut down. no BSOD or error just completely restarted.


Event viewer shows 2 Red errors

Code: 
A fatal alert was generated and sent to the remote endpoint. This may result in termination of the connection. The TLS protocol defined fatal error code is 43. The Windows SChannel error state is 252.

And

Code: 
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

Other than these i cant see any more problems.

Current Dump files are

Code: 
120513-20734-01.dmp	05/12/2013 12:43:46	DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL	0x000000d1	ffffe800`022cf840	00000000`00000002	00000000`00000001	fffff800`00c2e300	tcpip.sys	tcpip.sys+1b300					x64	ntoskrnl.exe+14dca0					C:\Windows\Minidump\120513-20734-01.dmp	8	15	9600	296,656	05/12/2013 12:45:25

&

Code: 
120513-18421-01.dmp	05/12/2013 13:05:58	IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL	0x0000000a	00000000`00000047	00000000`00000002	00000000`00000001	fffff800`ada49a02	ntoskrnl.exe	ntoskrnl.exe+14dca0					x64	ntoskrnl.exe+14dca0					C:\Windows\Minidump\120513-18421-01.dmp	8	15	9600	290,328	05/12/2013 13:07:17

&

Code: 
120513-21703-01.dmp	05/12/2013 14:09:54		0x00000116	ffffe000`03506010	fffff800`01c1fe64	ffffffff`c0000001	00000000`00000005	BasicRender.sys	BasicRender.sys+7ddb2c					x64	ntoskrnl.exe+14dca0					C:\Windows\Minidump\120513-21703-01.dmp	8	15	9600	345,167	05/12/2013 14:11:26

&

Code: 
120513-10125-01.dmp	05/12/2013 14:20:00	MEMORY_MANAGEMENT	0x0000001a	00000000`00041287	00000000`00000037	00000000`00000000	00000000`00000000	win32k.sys	win32k.sys+554d0					x64	ntoskrnl.exe+14dca0					C:\Windows\Minidump\120513-10125-01.dmp	8	15	9600	140,539	05/12/2013 14:20:43

&

Code: 
120513-11500-01.dmp	05/12/2013 14:24:29		0x00000133	00000000`00000001	00000000`00001e00	00000000`00000000	00000000`00000000	ntoskrnl.exe	ntoskrnl.exe+14dca0					x64	ntoskrnl.exe+14dca0					C:\Windows\Minidump\120513-11500-01.dmp	8	15	9600	165,779	05/12/2013 14:26:02

So im having I think the same problem on Win 7 pro and Win 8.1 just shown different symptoms on 8.1. As said previously GPU was given to a friend and worked fine for him on Windows 7 Ultimate, MB, CPU and RAM are all brand new. The same symptoms happened on my previous computer Intel Q6600, 4gb ram and a generic intel MB but only tried windows 7 on it. It leaves the GPU i think but i wonder why it works fine for mate but not me
 
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Just had another restart after posting previous latest dump

Code: 
ADDITIONAL_DEBUG_TEXT:  
You can run '.symfix; .reload' to try to fix the symbol path and load symbols.

MODULE_NAME: nt

FAULTING_MODULE: fffff801b2070000 nt

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  52520fe4

DUMP_FILE_ATTRIBUTES: 0x8
  Kernel Generated Triage Dump

TRAP_FRAME:  ffffd0002a4fa4b0 -- (.trap 0xffffd0002a4fa4b0)
NOTE: The trap frame does not contain all registers.
Some register values may be zeroed or incorrect.
rax=ffffe00003664158 rbx=0000000000000000 rcx=0000000000000003
rdx=ffffd000201e5200 rsi=0000000000000000 rdi=0000000000000000
rip=fffff801b21f8882 rsp=ffffd0002a4fa640 rbp=ffffd0002a4fa6e9
 r8=ffffe000036641c0  r9=ffffe00000f644b8 r10=0000000000000000
r11=ffffd0002a4fa748 r12=0000000000000000 r13=0000000000000000
r14=0000000000000000 r15=0000000000000000
iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz ac pe cy
nt+0x188882:
fffff801`b21f8882 ??              ???
Resetting default scope

EXCEPTION_RECORD:  ffffd0002a4fa408 -- (.exr 0xffffd0002a4fa408)
ExceptionAddress: fffff801b21f8882 (nt+0x0000000000188882)
   ExceptionCode: c0000409 (Security check failure or stack buffer overrun)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000001
NumberParameters: 1
   Parameter[0]: 0000000000000003

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT:  1

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT

BUGCHECK_STR:  0x139

CURRENT_IRQL:  0

ANALYSIS_VERSION: 6.3.9600.16384 (debuggers(dbg).130821-1623) amd64fre

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from fffff801b21c97e9 to fffff801b21bdca0

STACK_TEXT:  
ffffd000`2a4fa188 fffff801`b21c97e9 : 00000000`00000139 00000000`00000003 ffffd000`2a4fa4b0 ffffd000`2a4fa408 : nt+0x14dca0
ffffd000`2a4fa190 00000000`00000139 : 00000000`00000003 ffffd000`2a4fa4b0 ffffd000`2a4fa408 00000000`00000000 : nt+0x1597e9
ffffd000`2a4fa198 00000000`00000003 : ffffd000`2a4fa4b0 ffffd000`2a4fa408 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x139
ffffd000`2a4fa1a0 ffffd000`2a4fa4b0 : ffffd000`2a4fa408 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 3d766c20`3b423325 : 0x3
ffffd000`2a4fa1a8 ffffd000`2a4fa408 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 3d766c20`3b423325 30303030`30363735 : 0xffffd000`2a4fa4b0
ffffd000`2a4fa1b0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 3d766c20`3b423325 30303030`30363735 40aa4600`00000000 : 0xffffd000`2a4fa408


STACK_COMMAND:  kb

FOLLOWUP_IP: 
nt+14dca0
fffff801`b21bdca0 48894c2408      mov     qword ptr [rsp+8],rcx

SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  0

SYMBOL_NAME:  nt+14dca0

FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner

IMAGE_NAME:  ntoskrnl.exe

BUCKET_ID:  WRONG_SYMBOLS

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  WRONG_SYMBOLS

ANALYSIS_SOURCE:  KM

FAILURE_ID_HASH_STRING:  km:wrong_symbols

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {70b057e8-2462-896f-28e7-ac72d4d365f8}

Followup: MachineOwner
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Always a fresh install partitions deleted then done again then formatted. Apart from my backup partition its only 20gb or so
 
The graphics card originally done this with my old PC Intel Q6600, 4GB Ram, Generic Intel Motherboard. I then gave it too my cousin who put it in his FX8350, 16GB Ram, Unknown make of Motherboard and it worked fine. I then took it back and its doing the same in this New pc i have built.
 
Managed to pick myself up a corsair gs800 for very little money, fitted and formatted and problems have disappeared. So looks like it was PSu all along
 
Ok so this issue still is NOT resolved. I have removed the only remaining culprit from the old system the 650ti. Replaced it with R9 270x. I have also had a shot of 8gb ram from my cousin and still received the BSOD so that rules out the RAM. Only 2 things i can now think are the Motherboard and CPU. Can anyone else shed any light on this. One thing to possibly note is that i think the motherboard automatically OC's the CPU and/or RAM as the tweaker in bios is set to Auto, if i set it too manual it will have settings inputted but i dont know if they are correct.

Latest dump below

Code: 
122713-23212-01.dmp	
27/12/2013 16:18:36	
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA	0x00000050	fffff0a0`03e10530	00000000`00000000	fffff880`012ee317	00000000`00000007	
RTKVHD64.sys	
RTKVHD64.sys+1446b60			
x64	ntoskrnl.exe+75bc0					
C:\Windows\Minidump\122713-23212-01.dmp	8	15	7601	288,489	27/12/2013 17:20:50
 
Bump on this still have no idea their are 2 new dumps. I also done memtest for 9 hours last night and still no problems with it, i knew that tho since i gave a shot too my cousin and he encountered no problems at all with it, Also run a full scan using HDtube for the HDD no problems at all

Code: 
123113-20716-01.dmp	31/12/2013 13:56:00	
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL	0x000000d1	fffffb80`07aa3128	00000000`00000002	00000000`00000000	fffff880`0140105f	
NETIO.SYS	
NETIO.SYS+105f	 	 	 	 	
x64	ntoskrnl.exe+75bc0	 	 	 	 	
C:\Windows\Minidump\123113-20716-01.dmp	8	15	7601	288,489	31/12/2013 15:29:59

and

Code: 
010314-15194-01.dmp	03/01/2014 19:59:06	
MEMORY_MANAGEMENT	0x0000001a	00000000`00041287	00000100`00000018	00000000`00000000	00000000`00000000	
Ntfs.sys	
Ntfs.sys+d3cb	 	 	 	 	
x64	ntoskrnl.exe+75bc0	 	 	 	 	
C:\Windows\Minidump\010314-15194-01.dmp	8	15	7601	287,593	03/01/2014 20:04:48
 
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