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Be nice if they done the ones they have already planned properly first, doing a town and only putting fttc at 1/3 of the phone cabs then classing it as done is ridiculous.
BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion
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Be nice if they done the ones they have already planned properly first, doing a town and only putting fttc at 1/3 of the phone cabs then classing it as done is ridiculous.
I spoke to an engineer today and he said that talktalk will have something similar to LLU at the exchange but for FTTC. I hope BE jump on that as I can only get around 6mb at the moment
I don't want to go with BT due to the traffic management BS.
The Talk Talk FTTC is launching in May. I think Be will struggle to offer FTTC on similar terms that they do now with no traffic shaping and unlimited downloads. Certainly not for a price anything close to the £27 max they do now for ADSL.
Can you imagine how much some people would abuse a 40/10 unlimited and unshaped connection? Obviously I don't know, but I'd guess that's the big problem for Be* that's holding them back for now.
I've only just got BT Infinity today but from everything I've read the only traffic shaping is P2P at peak times. If you use SSL newsgroups it should run full speed 24/7. Worth thinking about if you don't use torrents at peak times.
As anyone ordered the Infinity + free anytime call at £28 a month + £10 Line rental.I called today after originally ordering just the infinity package alone at £26.60 a month and was told if I go for the calls and infinity package option 2 I believe I have to pay the full £120 12 month line rental up front .
As anyone ordered the same package and had to do the same? seems a little strange as there's no mention of that on the site + it's a 18 month contract
As anyone ordered the same package and had to do the same? seems a little strange as there's no mention of that on the site + it's a 18 month contract
As anyone ordered the Infinity + free anytime call at £28 a month + £10 Line rental.I called today after originally ordering just the infinity package alone at £26.60 a month and was told if I go for the calls and infinity package option 2 I believe I have to pay the full £120 12 month line rental up front .
As anyone ordered the same package and had to do the same? seems a little strange as there's no mention of that on the site + it's a 18 month contract
I have the same package, BT Infinity Option 2 with anytime calls for £28 and £10 line rental. You do have to pay upfront for the line rental with a credit/debit card. It says that on the BT website, on the choose a package page where it gives £10 line rental as an option, if you click on the link it then states:
"There are two ways to pay your BT landline rental. During your order, you can choose either:
£13.60 – every month
£10 – a month equivalent, when you pay 12 months in one advance card payment of £120 (Line Rental Saver)"
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I have this installed now, it's awesome tbh. Know it gets a lot of bad press but I have been happy.
I'm quite hard to please too, previously I was with Be getting a full 23MBit but when we moved house I had no choice other than Infinity. Luckily im getting 37.5MBit down and 8Mbit up.
My only issue is that when I use BT Vision, I then have to redo the net connection on the PC because it drops down to 13MBit even when I stop using Vision on demand.
Rang BT and they sent me a new Homehub which suprise suprise, won't even connect to the net. LOL
I'm quite hard to please too, previously I was with Be getting a full 23MBit but when we moved house I had no choice other than Infinity. Luckily im getting 37.5MBit down and 8Mbit up.
My only issue is that when I use BT Vision, I then have to redo the net connection on the PC because it drops down to 13MBit even when I stop using Vision on demand.
Rang BT and they sent me a new Homehub which suprise suprise, won't even connect to the net. LOL
Ok thanks...i didn't actually click the link to be honest....think ill stick with just the infinity package alone.
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I have my engineer coming in a couple of days. How long (roughly) did your's take to install infinity? Also, did they just need access to the socket, the new router and a computer?
Cheers
Cheers
Has anyone much knowledge on which router to get? I got the winner in the horses today again! £150 and im willing to spend it on a good fibre router as i reckon it will last a long time.
Zen reccomended the Draytek vigor 2920n which looks pretty tasty or i could get the Netgear WNDR3700 RangeMax Premium Edition (600Mbps)
I would like QoS to be able to game unaffected while others download etc but i have no idea on how to find it out.The netgear also says 600mb VS the 300mb of the draytek which i dont think matters at all this is just the wireless n throughput right? with 2 people max on my network i dont think it matters as all i do is gaming really.
The ability to link in a usb HDD to the draytek seems pretty cool though, people can access it with username and password and use my 10MB upload to grab whatever i have stored! fancy!
ps there was a great site out there that i have lost via bookmarks it rated lots of routers and seems excelent can anyone link me to it or at least guide me through what to buy?
its very appreciated as i have to place the fttc order in the next two days and im stumped as to what isp/router combo i want.
Zen reccomended the Draytek vigor 2920n which looks pretty tasty or i could get the Netgear WNDR3700 RangeMax Premium Edition (600Mbps)
I would like QoS to be able to game unaffected while others download etc but i have no idea on how to find it out.The netgear also says 600mb VS the 300mb of the draytek which i dont think matters at all this is just the wireless n throughput right? with 2 people max on my network i dont think it matters as all i do is gaming really.
The ability to link in a usb HDD to the draytek seems pretty cool though, people can access it with username and password and use my 10MB upload to grab whatever i have stored! fancy!
ps there was a great site out there that i have lost via bookmarks it rated lots of routers and seems excelent can anyone link me to it or at least guide me through what to buy?
its very appreciated as i have to place the fttc order in the next two days and im stumped as to what isp/router combo i want.
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I'm not on FTTC 
, but I've got a Draytek 2920n Router and two Netgear WNDR3700s (using them just as wireless access points - my house kills WiFi).
Draytek 2920n is great
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SmallNetBuilder might be the site you're thinking of?
, but I've got a Draytek 2920n Router and two Netgear WNDR3700s (using them just as wireless access points - my house kills WiFi).Draytek 2920n is great
.SmallNetBuilder might be the site you're thinking of?
omg thankyou that is indeed the site i was looking for !!!
i have also been reading a little more and i already knew draytek are quality and netgear sometimes dodgy(i went through 3 faulty dg834v2 in 1 year) and its only a 1 yr warranty on the WNDR3700 for £147!
Anyways i still cant find out more on the QoS so as you have both could you let me know what they are both like? netgear seems better from what i can gather and enables you to set gaming traffic to a higher priority so people can download and pings dont rise but the vigor only seems to be able to set bandwidth % and not actually have the traffic prioritised so the gaming traffic goes out first?
my second point that im also more confused on is the USB storage and FTP ability of the vigor which as i said soudns amazing and i know the netgear has something the same BUT can the netgear allow people outside the network, friends and such to gain access to the HDD and download from it? the vigor can with password access etc but all the netgear says is this...
"WNDR3700 also supports FTP and HTTP mode to access the content of the USB hard drive connected to the router from outside your home or business. In the router GUI, under the Advanced USB settings, you can initiate http and FTP access to the USB hard drive. You will see the WAN side IP address you need to use to get access to the USB hard drive content when you are travelling, either from your computer or from your Mobile Phone"
what the hell does that mean? see a wan side ip adress i need to use to get access? what? the vigor has a nice username and login for strangers to gain access so how do they get to dl my files using the netgear? do they have to initiate it by logging into the router first or something? sounds a bit pants to me.uf its just using an ip adress i think thats ok though!
Also The Vigor 2920 NAS facility uses any FAT16/FAT32 formatted device (includes USB memory sticks, USB hard drives etc.) and supports a transfer rate of 12MB/sec which further adds confusion as does this mean the speed people can grab the files off the usb FTP? thats still pretty good as 12MB/sec is around 100mb broadband speeds?
i cant decide oh and not that it matters but netgear have the wireless N usb adaptor that says windows 7 certified so thats a small bonus to the netgear so atm its 1-1 score wise! negear has qos and the vigor has the ftp usb access.i just wiah the vigor had both! if it does then i will choose it i think as i would love to be able to boast that i have a draytek and fttc 
i have also been reading a little more and i already knew draytek are quality and netgear sometimes dodgy(i went through 3 faulty dg834v2 in 1 year) and its only a 1 yr warranty on the WNDR3700 for £147!
Anyways i still cant find out more on the QoS so as you have both could you let me know what they are both like? netgear seems better from what i can gather and enables you to set gaming traffic to a higher priority so people can download and pings dont rise but the vigor only seems to be able to set bandwidth % and not actually have the traffic prioritised so the gaming traffic goes out first?
my second point that im also more confused on is the USB storage and FTP ability of the vigor which as i said soudns amazing and i know the netgear has something the same BUT can the netgear allow people outside the network, friends and such to gain access to the HDD and download from it? the vigor can with password access etc but all the netgear says is this...
"WNDR3700 also supports FTP and HTTP mode to access the content of the USB hard drive connected to the router from outside your home or business. In the router GUI, under the Advanced USB settings, you can initiate http and FTP access to the USB hard drive. You will see the WAN side IP address you need to use to get access to the USB hard drive content when you are travelling, either from your computer or from your Mobile Phone"
what the hell does that mean? see a wan side ip adress i need to use to get access? what? the vigor has a nice username and login for strangers to gain access so how do they get to dl my files using the netgear? do they have to initiate it by logging into the router first or something? sounds a bit pants to me.uf its just using an ip adress i think thats ok though!
Also The Vigor 2920 NAS facility uses any FAT16/FAT32 formatted device (includes USB memory sticks, USB hard drives etc.) and supports a transfer rate of 12MB/sec which further adds confusion as does this mean the speed people can grab the files off the usb FTP? thats still pretty good as 12MB/sec is around 100mb broadband speeds?
i cant decide
oh and not that it matters but netgear have the wireless N usb adaptor that says windows 7 certified so thats a small bonus to the netgear so atm its 1-1 score wise! negear has qos and the vigor has the ftp usb access.i just wiah the vigor had both! if it does then i will choose it i think as i would love to be able to boast that i have a draytek and fttc
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Unfortunately those two things you want to know about (QoS & NAS) are features I've never used, sorry!
What I would say is: If you want a great reliable router, get the Draytek. If you want awesome WiFi, get the Netgear.
If you're in the lucky position that I was and have the cash for both, get them both. Use the 2920n as a Router and the WNDR3700 as an Access Point like I am (I actually have the WNDR3700 running off of a switch on the other side of the house). You could actually get the 2920 instead of the 2920n if you're getting a WNDR3700 to be an access point, but when I was buying the 2920 was only something like £5 cheaper than the 2920n so I got the 2920n (for my house I need as many access points as possible!)
As an example of the routing performance difference, in SNB's review of the WNDR3700 they found it supported 4096 simultaneous sessions... the 2920n supported 34925 simultaneous sessions!
What I would say is: If you want a great reliable router, get the Draytek. If you want awesome WiFi, get the Netgear.
If you're in the lucky position that I was and have the cash for both, get them both. Use the 2920n as a Router and the WNDR3700 as an Access Point like I am (I actually have the WNDR3700 running off of a switch on the other side of the house). You could actually get the 2920 instead of the 2920n if you're getting a WNDR3700 to be an access point, but when I was buying the 2920 was only something like £5 cheaper than the 2920n so I got the 2920n (for my house I need as many access points as possible!)
As an example of the routing performance difference, in SNB's review of the WNDR3700 they found it supported 4096 simultaneous sessions... the 2920n supported 34925 simultaneous sessions!
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Exchange Date> RFS date set : 01/06/2011
Infinity Availability / Capibet Upgrade > 01-July-2011
BT can suck a giant monkey, those were originally supposed to be March of this year!
They can also suck a giant monkey as the exchange here was in the 3rd wave of exchanges to get ADSL back in the day ... and now it's one of the later ones to get FTTC
Infinity Availability / Capibet Upgrade > 01-July-2011
BT can suck a giant monkey, those were originally supposed to be March of this year!
They can also suck a giant monkey as the exchange here was in the 3rd wave of exchanges to get ADSL back in the day ... and now it's one of the later ones to get FTTC
Hardly one of the later ones, it's still going to be one of the first 15% of households to be enabled.
Out here in "the sticks" on a 600 household exchange I'm going to be completely boned unless the government intervenes. Forget FTTC, we'll be lucky to get ADSL2 (maybe in 2013 if the 21CN upgrades maintain the original 5 year estimate)
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seeing those speed tests just makes me feel sick, i pay the same amount as BT infinity but im not in a fiber optic area and i only get 4mb if im lucky.
this thread makes me cry.
this thread makes me cry.
hmm, bit confused.
i went to the bt infinity website and entered my bt landline number and it said the following:
"BT Infinity Faster BT Total Broadband Fibre optic broadbandWe're rolling out our fibre optic network to bring you faster speeds of up to 40Mb. Register your interest now and we'll contact you near to the date stated. 32.0Mb download
6.8Mb upload 30-June-2011"
However i then clicked on the map and i live in Southend-on-Sea, Essex. Clicked on the Essex County and the following was said:
"Great News, These exchanges are ready for BT Infinity
Barking, Barnet, Berkhamsted, Billericay, Bishops Stortford, Braintree, Brentwood, Bury St. Edmonds, Chelmsford, Elstree, Goodmayes, Hainault, Harpenden, Hemel Hempstead, Hoddesdon, Hornchurch, Ingrebourne, Lea Valley, Leagrave, Leigh On Sea, Leighton Buzzard, Loughton, Luton, Ortons, Romford, Southend-on-Sea, St.Albans, St.Neots, Stanford-Le-Hope, Waltham Cross, Watford, Wickford, Woodford"
Is my exchange enabled or not? :S
i went to the bt infinity website and entered my bt landline number and it said the following:
"BT Infinity Faster BT Total Broadband Fibre optic broadbandWe're rolling out our fibre optic network to bring you faster speeds of up to 40Mb. Register your interest now and we'll contact you near to the date stated. 32.0Mb download
6.8Mb upload 30-June-2011"
However i then clicked on the map and i live in Southend-on-Sea, Essex. Clicked on the Essex County and the following was said:
"Great News, These exchanges are ready for BT Infinity
Barking, Barnet, Berkhamsted, Billericay, Bishops Stortford, Braintree, Brentwood, Bury St. Edmonds, Chelmsford, Elstree, Goodmayes, Hainault, Harpenden, Hemel Hempstead, Hoddesdon, Hornchurch, Ingrebourne, Lea Valley, Leagrave, Leigh On Sea, Leighton Buzzard, Loughton, Luton, Ortons, Romford, Southend-on-Sea, St.Albans, St.Neots, Stanford-Le-Hope, Waltham Cross, Watford, Wickford, Woodford"
Is my exchange enabled or not? :S