budget gamer build need some advice and spec

freeroller

freeroller

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Hi guys,

This will by my first build mainly for World of warcraft and counterstrike games.
I have around 400-450 to spend would like to make it as fast as possible for the money avaliable , i no its hard with the budget im not expecting it to be amazing could stretch a tiny more if it made a big difference, i really dont want to overclock it , building the thing scares me enough lol.

I have a mouse ,keyboard, vista home premium 64bit, and a 15" inch tv/monitor combo thing laying around somewhere i could maybe use intill i can uprade it in a few weeks if cant fit a new monitor in the build with my budget.

looking to order it all on friday, thanks in advance i no its a challange :).
 
i would make another post on wednesday, because the this week only deals change on wednesday morning which would end up changing about half your build

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ok, so technichally it is wednesday, but bump this after 10am
 
 
freeroller said:
Bump , see if weeks deals make a difference, thanks.
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Sure did...most things hybrid quoted gone back up in price lol

Anyway, for WOW specifically don't bother with any AMD build, as a i3 2100 would trade blows with Phenom II X4 980BE 3.7GHz in games that use all 4 cores like BFBC2, and destory it in one/two cores games like WOW.
For you budget, your build should be a 1155 H61 motherboard like this one:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-179-MS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1965
together with a i3 2100:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-367-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=1671
and then go from there.
 
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unfortunately this weeks deals are pretty poo, so this is the best i could do:


YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 460 HAWK "Super-OC" 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £131.99
1 x Intel Core i3-2100 3.10GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £91.99
1 x MSI H67MA-E35 Intel H67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro-ATX Motherboard - (Sandybridge) **B3 REVISION** *WITH FREE MSI GRENADE* £59.99
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L7 530W '80 Plus' Power Supply £44.99
1 x Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £35.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9AD3B1K2/4G) £31.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500413AS) £29.99
1 x Samsung SH-S222AL/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Lightscribe ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £454.51 (includes shipping : £10.50).
 
Reaper 392 said:
unfortunately this weeks deals are pretty poo, so this is the best i could do:


YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 460 HAWK "Super-OC" 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £131.99
1 x Intel Core i3-2100 3.10GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £91.99
1 x MSI H67MA-E35 Intel H67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro-ATX Motherboard - (Sandybridge) **B3 REVISION** *WITH FREE MSI GRENADE* £59.99
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L7 530W '80 Plus' Power Supply £44.99
1 x Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £35.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9AD3B1K2/4G) £31.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500413AS) £29.99
1 x Samsung SH-S222AL/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Lightscribe ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £454.51 (includes shipping : £10.50).
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Actually this is as perfect as can be considering the budget. While corner has been cut on the PSU, considering i3 2100's lower power consumption, the Be Quiet 530W should have problem even for high-end single GPU graphic card...and with the next gen graphic card heading toward 28nm (which will mean lower power consumption), future graphic upgrade should be no problem as well.
 
Jordan97 said:
For Reaper's build, if you wanted to get things even cheaper, you could go with this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-225-CM&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=29


This is the PSU that comes with it:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-230-CM&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1103
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that PSU is pretty poor. if you use it you will need to use a molex to 6 pin PCIe adapter (usually sold with the graphics card) as it only has one 6 pin PCIe cable. also, the money saved will be wiped out within a week of hard use because the bequiet is far more efficient (its 80+ rated, rather than 'typically over 70%')
 
hey guys thanks for help , just wondering if something like this will be good enough for wow, if not i just use reapers build and get monitor later :)

OcUK V-Line 221V2SB 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black



£89.99
(£74.99)

£89.99
(£74.99)





XFX ATI Radeon HD 5830 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card



£89.99
(£74.99)

£89.99
(£74.99)

Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black (with 500w Elite Power PSU)



£64.99
(£54.16)

£64.99
(£54.16)

Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard



£54.98
(£45.82)

£54.98
(£45.82)

AMD Athlon II X3 Tri Core 450 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail



£53.99
(£44.99)

£53.99
(£44.99)

Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9)



£34.99
(£29.16)

£34.99
(£29.16)

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX)



£32.99
(£27.49)

£32.99
(£27.49)

Sony Optiarc AD-7260S 24x DVD±RW SATA Lightscribe ReWriter (Black) - OEM



£17.99
(£14.99)

£17.99
(£14.99)



Sub Total :

£366.59



Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout)

Shipping :

£12.50
 
good enough, except the PSU. I would take the be quiet any day, it's worth the extra tenner. And if you can stretch the GTX 460 OC at £115. Else the 5830 will do. The 5830 has relatively high power consumption and will hit that 500W PSU (doesn't have two PCI so you'll have to use one molex to PCIE connector). And I would still take a i3 + H61 / H67 :)

hmm all that is over budget, so I'd stick with the tricore athlon, just the PSU I don't like.


YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK V-Line 221V2SB 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £89.99
1 x XFX ATI Radeon HD 5830 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £89.99
1 x Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £54.98
1 x AMD Athlon II X3 Tri Core 450 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £53.99
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L7 530W '80 Plus' Power Supply £44.99
1 x Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £35.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500413AS) £29.99
1 x Corsair Value 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Low Voltage Dual-Channel Kit £23.98
1 x Samsung SH-S222AL/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Lightscribe ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £452.38 (includes shipping : £11.25).



If you can do without the monitor, the i3-2120 and GTX 460 OC will give much better experience ime.

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI ATI Radeon HD 6870 OC HAWK 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE Lara Croft Game £149.99
1 x Intel Core i3-2120 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £99.98
1 x MSI H61M-E33 Intel H61 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard **B3 REVISION** *WITH FREE MSI GRENADE* £46.99
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L7 530W '80 Plus' Power Supply £44.99
1 x Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £35.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500413AS) £29.99
1 x Corsair Value 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Low Voltage Dual-Channel Kit £23.98
1 x Samsung SH-S222AL/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Lightscribe ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £459.49 (includes shipping : £10.50).



Or a 460 OC if it's too expensive. That will do well in your games.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/202?vs=289

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=313
 
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As the above posts have shown, you'll really struggle to get a decent gaming system for £450, especially if you want a monitor in there. I'd advise getting as much right first time as possible, so that you're not looking at spending big money on upgrading in future.

That means leave the monitor for the minute, and for the processor, get an i3-2100. As for motherboard, I'd recommend an H67 board, as H61s tend to be fairly minimalist; for example they only have 2 DIMM slots for RAM. A P67 leaves you open to a 2500K in future if you can get one for the same kind of price, but iirc a P67 is ~£20-30 more, so maybe not.

PSUs are definitely the one thing you shouldn't cheap out on. The BeQuiet 530W is the *minimum* you should be looking at- I'd be far more comfortable with the Antec HCG 620W if you can stretch the extra.
 
Just go for Reaper's build at #6. Monitor upgrade leave it till when you have the money to spare. If you settle for anything less like the Athlon II instead of the i3 2100, you will regret it for WOW. Check this out...the Athlon II CPUs are all at the lower half in terms of frame rate for WOW:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/62

Also, WOW scale better with Nvidia card than AMD's, so the 6870 is most likely not any faster than there GTX460 OC, especially when both are overclocked.
 
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