Build advice please

Steviepunk

Steviepunk

Steviepunk

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Looking for a bit of advice on a new build.

So far I am planning on using the following (though with minor tweaks depending on what is actually available) when I order - I want good power, but I do want it to run as quiet as possible

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,502.10 (includes shipping: £13.20)​
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My main sticking point is whether to go for a water cooling loop - I want to give that a try but I don't really want to have to dismantle a regular GPU cooler in order to install a waterblock - so I guess part of my decision comes down to whether I can manage to get a GPU with a pre-installed waterblock. I'd be looking at the 3080 or 3080ti (though I haven't yet see any ti models with a waterblock). Are the GPUs with a waterblock installed usually good quality?

Obviously I'll probably have to work on the basis that getting such a GPU is not likely - so I'd have to assume that I'd have to go for one with a good cooler on it. In that case, is it worth doing a water loop if it's only covering the CPU? Seems at that point I might as well just stick with a AIO CPU cooler as I've done for my last couple of builds (I'd probably go for something like this https://www.overclockers.co.uk/nzxt-kraken-x73-aio-cpu-water-cooler-360mm-hs-01l-nx.html )

I guess the specifics of the build hinge on the GPU - although I can bring my current GPU over, not knowing the final option means I'm uncertain whether to commit to a proper water cooled system at all.


Also tempted by the 5950x on the daily deal today, but not sure I would ever need all those cores!
 
I was of the impression that the Strix series boards were good, as is their software support. I've used Gigabyte for my last few builds and considered the X570 Aorus Ultra, however one of the PCIe x1 ports sits right under the main GPU slot... so unless I get a single slot GPU, then that slot is pretty much useless - I saw the Strix boards and they have the PCIe x1 and extra space down, so it would at least be usable if I get a 2 slot card (I have a sound card and a USB expansion that I'll be migrating from my current PC). @EsaT I wasn't aware the Asus (of Gigabyte) board had fans, I can't see them on the photos.. or are they hidden under those metal panels and therefore have next to no airflow?
I don't want an MSI board, partly as I don't want one with a fan but also I just don't like MSI as a company (never really did, but they do seem to have been leading the charge when it comes to AIBs taking the p*** on GPU pricing, got to draw a line somewhere and vote with my wallet)

@khull As for the loop, I've been thinking about this today and pretty much came the same conclusion as yourself. Get an AIO just now and then consider a custom loop if/when I get a suitable GPU
 
EsaT said:
As rule every X570 board has chipset fan.
BS department of Asus just hides those under marketing excrements just like VRM heatsinks are also covered to worsen cooling.
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Good info, thanks. Though I did find that the X570s chipsets are immanent - essentially x570 without the fans. MSI and ASRock have announced there models and Gigabyte have their ones list at the EEC, then again for all we know those won't be out until Nov, then I'll be thinking about waiting for AM5!
It's strange, so many of the reviews & recommendations I have been reading online recommend the ROG Strix boards, virtually none of them mention the fans on the chipsets. Did even see one that recommended the Strix-E without mentioning the fan at all, but have the fan on the MSI listed as a negative... it almost sounds like some of these sites are making recommendations off the spec sheet, or in conjunction with their advertisers/sponsor....


khull said:
For water-cooling, EK does a chipset block for the x570 Aorus (unnecessary, but if you are going to spend such money, you might as well) along with your GPU block (check for clearance)
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Yeah, I think I'd come to that conclusion by the time I'd finished writing my post! I think sometimes you just need to say/write down your question and the answer becomes obvious. If I can get a GPU with a waterblock pre-installed already then I'll do the loop, otherwise I'll just stick to the air based approach!


nlel1975 said:
EVGA power meter reckons 750W PSU would suffice with a 3080 and 5900x or 5950x...

https://www.evga.com/power-meter/
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Some 3080 models are recommending a 850W PSU, though I think in real world usage the 750 would do the job for them (unless overclocking maybe).
I'm also planning ahead based on the rumours for RDNA3 7800/7900 being 2 chiplets each, with each chiplet being around the same size as the 6800/6900 (essentially making the 7000 series double the compute units of the equivalent 6000 series card) - if that turns out to be true, I'd imagine the power requirements will be rather large as I doubt they will manage a 50% power efficiency gain in the process.

1000w might overkill, was just staying on the cautious side, but a 850w is probably the smallest I'd go for.


thanks for the all the feedback everyone :)
 
khull said:
An observation for a efficient platinum 1000w is the fans hardly run at even under 40-60% load range - a smaller 600-700w could put it in the 60-70% load range
If you are looking for a quiet build then it may not be a bad idea.
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I hadn't even considered that, very good point :)
 
EsaT said:
Don't really believe there's new AM4 chipset coming with AMD4 moving toward getting successor.
At least for AMD it wouldn't make much sense to spend money on that.
They even did X570 chipset themselves only because no one else was able to do PCIE v4 chipset.
And with limited future/selling life neither there's sense for mobo makers to really spend money on entirely new board designs.
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It was this that I was referring to - from what I'd read it sounds like it's an optimised version of the x570 to use a bit less power. Seems MSI have announced x570s boards as well.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1672...ls-new-x570s-and-b550-pg-riptide-motherboards

Other than not having the fan, does seem to be anything else new with them.
 
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