Building a rack mount

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Hello all.

I've been tasked with building a 4u rackmount server that will be connected to around 25 pc's within the same building. And also will have to have communication with our main server at a different building 30 miles away

I have built all my works pc's over the years but i've never had to upgrade the server they have and this is where i become a little stuck


So the case i shall be using and that i have sat next to me at this moment in time is a Antec 4U Rackmount Chassis
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As far as components go what do you think would be best. Should i get a single xeon in there or do i get a i5 or i7?

also what would be a good amount of ram? 16gb?

last off as far as a display goes should i just get a simple LCD screen
?

thanks to all
 
How exactly did you get tasked with this? You usually buy in pre-built Dell or HP servers, I haven't heard of any proper organisations building their own.
 
as i said over the years ive build the desktop and workstations for autocad etc.

I was asked if i could build a rackmount and i said i would give it ago and let them know dnt really want to buy a pre build one as i have the feeling i can save money by building my own much like a desktop pc would be cheaper doing so.

Also doing one myself gives me a little extra knewledge
 
You are but you won't save much as they're at a premium, save yourself a whole load of hassle and look into pre-builds, others will be along to agree in a while.

Plus they have 3 years prosupport and onsite warranty.
 
You are but you won't save much as they're at a premium, save yourself a whole load of hassle and look into pre-builds, others will be along to agree in a while.

:D, I liked that.

I have a number of SMEs who buy white box servers from me, generally when they want a custom setup (ESXi compatible for example).

OP

The big advantage of buying off the shelf branded is that you get the warranty but you pay the price. The initial purchase of a server is usually pretty competitive but when you start adding ram and hard drives it starts mounting up pretty quickly. The recent HP M110G7 sale was a good example. The server comes with an extra 250GB hdd and an extra 2GB ram (4GB total) but if you buy more ram or storage from HP it will be very expensive. If you can live with the initial bundle deal or are not so bothered about the warranty then it is really a very good deal.

Last time I checked I could build 2 servers of the same spec compared to buying a Dell R210 with 32GB ECC (that was the killer), but that is unusual.

As for E3, i5 or i7, the E3 Xeon is a great CPU, the v2 is based on the Ivy Bridge die and the E3-1230v2 has hyperthreading (4 cores / 8 threads) for less cash than an i7. For motherboards, the Intel S1200BTLR or the Supermicro X9SCA / X9SCM tend to be very good. The intel board gives the basics with add-on options where as the Supermicro board have the basice or the -F models have the add-ons but it is one or the other. Note the S1200BTLR rear port config makes it difficult to fit in a 1U chassis (I know from trying).

For ram,
S1200BTLR Intel Certified;

  • KVR13E9/8I (single 8GB)
  • KVR13E9K2/16I (kit of 2x8GB)

For S1200BTLR or the Supermicro boards;

  • KVR1333D3E9S/8G (single 8GB)
  • KVR1333D3E9SK2/16G (kit of 2x8GB)
4GB sticks are also available.

The case specs seem to indicate a max of 13x 3.5" drives.

The boards above have 6x SATA so you would need a possible connectivity for up to 7 more drives.
The IBM M1015 is a good basic controller (based on the LSI 2008 chipset but usually needs flashing to the LSI bios to work in non IBM machines). The Intel RS2WC080 is essentially the same unit but branded as Intel. AFAIK this one does not need flashing but I have not tried it so cannot guarantee. The Intel card is usually a bit cheaper new. The advantage of the M1015 is that they can sometimes be easy to find on EBay for a fraction of the new price. Both these cards support RAID 0/1/10. Adding a feature key extends then to also include RAID 5/50 but without cache and battery backup (or non-volitile Flash based cache) this would not be recommended. For RAID 5/50 or up then something like the HP P410 with BBU or FBWC (Flash Based Write Cache) would be a good budget choice. These can also be found on EBay sometimes.

Most servers come with KVMoIP functionality so you can access from a remote location and have full control from booting up to accessing the BIOS etc. A monitor should not be required if you have this. The Supermicro '-F' versions of their boards do and the Intel board has an add-on to enable it.

To advise in a more targeted manner we would really need a lot more information;
What is the function of the server ?.
What is criticality of the server being up ?.
What sort of load is the server likely to experience (network, disk, cpu etc) ?.
What sort of budget ?.

Presumably you are putting the server in to fill a gap or to relieve resourcing issues. If it is the second (local server to cut down excessive file load times on shared storage for example) then you should have an idea of what sort of load will be put on the new server based on the people accessing and the load on the current server. Getting the stats will give a much higher chances of the server meeting expectations rather than overspeccing and wasting available capital or underspeccing and not resolving the issue.

Rb
 
How exactly did you get tasked with this? You usually buy in pre-built Dell or HP servers, I haven't heard of any proper organisations building their own.

You'd be surprised, know of quite a few.
 
As above, by the time you've factored in the costs of "server-grade" hardware you won't be far short of something you could build yourself, but with a warranty and guarantee that everything will work as it should.
 
I haven't heard of any proper organisations building their own.

So only businesses who buy HP or Dell (or equiv) servers are "proper organisations" - what utter tripe.

Many many SME's use alternative sources for servers be it second hand ones junked by big money organisations but in perfect working order, or self-built solutions. It doesnt make them any less of a proper business and suggesting so is quite offensive to anyone who doesnt have huge bugets and teams of IT bods sitting on their backsides producing hot air.
 
So only businesses who buy HP or Dell (or equiv) servers are "proper organisations" - what utter tripe.

Many many SME's use alternative sources for servers be it second hand ones junked by big money organisations but in perfect working order, or self-built solutions. It doesnt make them any less of a proper business and suggesting so is quite offensive to anyone who doesnt have huge bugets and teams of IT bods sitting on their backsides producing hot air.

No, he means he hasn't heard of a proper company tasking someone to build a server from scratch, as in building a one-off, in house server from parts, as the OP is proposing to do.

Buy a pre-build. Server grade hardware is more reliable and the warranties are generally longer and more worthwhile having.
 
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