Building from scratch - WoW and OBS/Twitch

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Morning all

Looking to build a new PC for WoW and OBS/Twitch Streaming. I'm a developer, so probably end up running some Docker images, SQL Server Express etc. Not interested in overclocking nor am I looking for a lot of fancy lights. I'd prefer a small sized case running very quietly. Cost isn't a massive issue, but I don't want to waste money either.

I have a couple of 4k monitors, but will play WoW on a 1440p monitor probably.

Have spent a few days looking around and have ended up being even more confused than I was before!

1) I will be using a Fury X for now, until nvidia sort their new releases out, then I'll decide what to do. Currently expecting to use a 1070 Ti. But not sure if I'd be better going for a 1080. What are they like noise wise? Heat? Benefit in OBS?

2) i7 8700K for £310 or i5 8600K for £220. The i5 is quite a bit cheaper obviously, I think it's probably good enough for WoW, but maybe not with the overhead of OBS.

3) 16GB for £200 or 32GB for £400. Again, I think 16GB would be sufficient, and I could add 16GB later if required.

4) PSU. Seems that a 500W vs 1200W, price differences aren't massive. And as long as I go for Platinum, the efficiency on a 1200W PSU isn't miles away running at 40% capacity. Any other downsides to 1200W? Size (see point 6)? Heat? Noise? Cost?

5) Case. I have no idea what to do here. I would prefer smaller. Micro ATX sized. Would rather not have a window as it'll just bleed LED/RGB light out. And almost silent is important to me.

5a) I'm more than willing to upgrade case fans to get better airflow/silence. Any recommendations?

6) CPU Cooling. Should I go for AIO or Air? Which is better? Which is quieter? If I go for a smaller case, would most of them take a 240mm AIO setup?

7) GPU Cooling. Is stock cooling enough on a 1070 Ti? 1080? Noise wise? Would I be better going for an EK setup with CPU/GPU cooling rig?

8) Motherboard. Not interested in overclocking. I'll probably have a couple of 2.5" SSDs only. 2-4 sticks of RAM. One GPU. Fairly basic requirements really. No idea where to start here!

Thanks in advance. Some guidance would be most welcome!

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Ryzen would surely be a better option for OBS and streaming if you aren't planning on using a 2nd PC to stream?

Possibly! I don't know really. Bit of a novice with PCs. I believe WoW prefers higher speed cores rather than multiple slower cores.

For now, it'd need to be a single machine. My Surface Book 2 handles it OK (doing both), but wanting a desktop PC.
 
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I'm no expert, but I've researched my own very recent new build, and Ryzen wipes the floor with intel on streaming. Yes you'll get less frames, but almost all of them (assuming a decent ryzen) will get encoded, whereas whilst you might get a few more frames with the intel, they won't actually get to your viewers.

What's your surface book? If that does what you need, then you know what is good enough :D.

EDIT - 8700k is probably enough to do both with ease anyway.

SB2 15" - only config is 512GB SSD. CPU is Core i7-8650U. It does squeal a bit as it's being hammered really.

I am looking at 2700x now. Bloody internet, was supposed to be clearing up things, not adding more options.
 
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I'm kind of sold on Ryzen. BUT...I'd have really preferred Micro ATX. Not sure if that changes/limits my options.

I'll need to look at CPU cooler and case next.

PS thanks both for suggestions. The platinum PSU is expensive, but I think worth it.
 
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I think Seasonic PRIME 600 Watt FANLESS SILENT Modular 80+ Titanium PSU/Power Supply is the one for me. It's expensive, but very highly regarded. 600W should be enough power, I'd imagine.

I know it's probably pointless in that I'll have a GPU making loads of racket, but if I can keep my PSU and CPU cooler volumes down, it'll make me happier.

What are my CPU cooler options?
 
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Is Air better than AIO? I'm not sold on either. Looking for quietness. Not really going to be overclocking, no intention anyway.

I did read some reviews of the bequiet dark rock pro 4. Seems good other than needing low profile RAM.
 
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I've read some good things about Noctua NH-D15s. Not cheap at £73ish. But seems to be quiet and keeps things cool.

Fractal Design Define R5 Silent Gaming Case with USB 3.0 looks good. £100.

£670 for the CPU, Motherboard and RAM (plus SSD) - Ryzen 7 2800x, 16GB 3200 RAM
£100 for case - R5 windowless
£73 for CPU cooler - NH-D15s
£200 for PSU - SeaSonic fanless

£1043 isn't bad really

Borrow a GPU until 11XX/20XX are announced. Should be good to go?
 
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Thanks for your help!

What should I do about thermal compound? What's "best"?

Oh...and Windows 10 pro. What options do I have? £230 from MS. Eeek
 
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Not sure what that means right now, but I'll read up.

I was really hoping for nvidia due to them just having better benchmarks. I understand that G sync is less prevalent and much more expensive. Hmmm
 
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I ended up buying a Dell S2716DG. Perfect fit. G-Sync though. Oops.

Have it with a Samsung 28" 4k for doing dev stuff.

Thank you for all of your help. PC built and running well enough. Just want to find a keyboard to fit my desk. TKL. MX Red/Brown silent. Hmmm
 
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