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How is yours faring? Have you been tempted to jump ship, or is it still serving it's intended purpose?

I'm sporting an FX-8150 and it's still going strong. I was tempted to sell it and purchase a Piledriver CPU at one point, but instead opted to see what Steamroller brings to the table.
 
Steamroller is at least 1st Q of 2014 for the server chips and the desktop versions quite a while after this as far as I have read. I wouldn't hold for that long for an upgrade based on that if I needed one.

If your current chip is doing everything you ask of it well, why upgrade at all though?
 
Steamroller is at least 1st Q of 2014 for the server chips and the desktop versions quite a while after this as far as I have read. I wouldn't hold for that long for an upgrade based on that if I needed one.

If your current chip is doing everything you ask of it well, why upgrade at all though?

The compulsion to upgrade is an all too familiar one, especially when people are touting Intel left, right and centre. ;)
 
The compulsion to upgrade is an all too familiar one, especially when people are touting Intel left, right and centre. ;)

I hear what your saying. Close to just biting the bullet and upgrading to FX8 the only downside being I cant really afford a sabertooth or better board.
 
I jumped ship long ago amd is bad ad if you try an over clock haswell you will wish you did too.

As far as the red camp goes they have epic gpu's but I am afraid that the CPU camp could do with a few pointers from them.
 
I wouldn't upgrade to a Piledriver from a Bulldozer. Yes they are quicker but not massively so?
 
The 6300 will outperform the 8150 in a lot of things by a clear margin, because of the PD improvements. The 8320 obviously adds on two cores to that. Someone here recently went from an 8150 to a 6350 and got massive improvements in games.

If your board is good enough for a decent overclock, it wouldn't be worth it though.
 
They are quicker but if you cant get something done on a overclocked BD, I wouldn't rely on a overclocked PD to solve the issue.

I would definitely wait it out and i am saying this as someone who owns one 8150 and two 8350's.

If something is letting you down in games, the money is more likely effectively spent in the GPU department.
 
The 6300 will outperform the 8150 in a lot of things by a clear margin, because of the PD improvements. The 8320 obviously adds on two cores to that. Someone here recently went from an 8150 to a 6350 and got massive improvements in games.

If your board is good enough for a decent overclock, it wouldn't be worth it though.

I was under the impression that the difference between an FX-8150 and FX-8320 would be marginal, let alone an FX-6300?
Would you care to provide some source material for your claims?
 
I was under the impression that the difference between an FX-8150 and FX-8320 would be marginal, let alone an FX-6300?
Would you care to provide some source material for your claims?

As you can see here, the stock 6300 is outperforming the 8150, and the 8350 is quite a way ahead of the 8150. PD tends to overclock better too, giving a much bigger potential performance increase.

http://i.imgur.com/0nIkCAb.jpg
 
As you can see here, the stock 6300 is outperforming the 8150, and the 8350 is quite a way ahead of the 8150. PD tends to overclock better too, giving a much bigger potential performance increase.

http://i.imgur.com/0nIkCAb.jpg

Is it not just turbo'ing higher? I honestly don't know, likewise it's hard to tell from reviews as many sites(don't recognise the style there) wouldn't retest Bulldozer after the initial launch. Bulldozer alone on launch vs several windows updates and several months later were two fairly differently performing chips.

Honestly I've simply not paid too much attention to CPU reviews lately, I've read architecture info but the benchmarks haven't been interesting enough to watch. Intel get a little faster but stay quad core for years, AMD add a little but it's not much. Architecturally Piledriver is an interesting upgrade and Bulldozer is hugely interesting as the start of a new family of chips. Steamroller numbers will be interesting though, as is the architecture, as is HSA.


If AMD aren't bringing out 8 core steamrollers as soon as possible it's the one bad move they've made in the past couple years. Because people will be interested in upgrading when the new consoles bring us significantly higher performing games using more memory, cpu power, gpu power. Having an 8 core steamroller available that looked "close" to Intel in non gaming benches and on top of or ahead of Intel in gaming benches(new games) but also cost a lot less and would be significantly more power efficient(not than Intel but Piledriver, both because of tech and 28nm) would go down a treat. They should be making MS/Sony put AMD all over games, advertising boards in open world games, that kinda crap.

Checking a review I'm under the impression that the FX6300 both turbo's higher though not by much, but likely due to improvement in power usage and having less cores it likely turbo's more often and for longer which would explain higher benchmarks in many situations.

EDIT:- was looking at the 8120, so they have the same turbo but the other point stands, the FX6300 will turbo much longer and more often than a chip with double the amount of cores working. On the FX8350 it has a 400Mhz stock clock speed advantage. It's got an over 10% clock speed advantage and a slightly higher performance advantage which suggests the difference is pretty small overall.

For me, I moved from a Phenom 2 to a 2500k, only because my chip died and at that time the 2500k was a decent upgrade. Bulldozer was about where I expected, Piledriver a nice improvement, but I've been waiting for Steamroller, certainly didn't see the value in Ivy or HAswell upgrades. Just a huge shame they didn't push an 8 core Steamroller FX now. Of course Sony and MS might not be too happy about AMD essentially releasing an awesome gaming combo of new mobo, new cpu and new GPU right on the new gen console launch window.

If there was a 8 core Steamroller released now I'd upgrade that way, no doubt about it. A year from now Intel might actually get off their arse and put a decent hex core out for current quad prices. If Kaveri scares them at all they might adjust their pricing before AMD get an octo core version out.
 
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The 6300 won't be using turbo much there, as all the cores are in use. It's very common in recent benchmarks, games using 4+ cores are putting the 6300 above the 8150. Plus you can typically get a 6300 up to 5GHz with a decent air cooler.

And someone who went from 8150 to 6350 here got very big improvements in his games, I can't remember the name of the thread though.
 
I am not sure that the FX6300 turbos that much more than an FX8150 TBH,as I know mates who use the FX6300 and FX6350. After all the FX8150 is 3.6GHZ to 4.2GHZ and the FX6300 3.5GHZ to 4.1GHZ,so at most it should not be not much more than a 10% increase in clockspeed for the FX6300.

However,CryEngine 3 threads very well and the FX8150 has 33% more cores than an FX6300.

In some games BD appeared to be bugged. One of these was DiRT3.

Edit!!

In some lightly threaded games the improvements of PD are huge over the Phenom II for example:

http://gamegpu.ru/images/stories/Test_GPU/strategy/StarCraft II Heart of the Swarm/test/sc2 proz.png

http://gamegpu.ru/images/stories/Test_GPU/strategy/StarCraft II Heart of the Swarm/test/sc2 amd.png

http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/2/357662/original/world-of-warcraft-1680.png

Intel Core i5 CPUs are better,but it is a dramatic improvement on the AMD side.
 
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