Bus Gate : Bristol

HEADRAT

HEADRAT

HEADRAT

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Hi,

Anybody ever been caught by a 'Bus Gate', doesn't seem to be mentioned in the Highway Code, got nabbed by the one in Cumberland Road in Bristol, seems like I'm not the only one:

www.bbc.co.uk

Bristol bus gate fines top £500k since January

Bristol City Council says the Bedminster bus gate was introduced to improve air quality.
www.bbc.co.uk

Signage was terrible, you have nowhere to go, you basically have to do a three point turn to avoid!

Cheers

HEADRAT
 
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Bus lanes are fine, I understand bus lanes, they are in the Highway code and there is another lane with all the car in ;) Bus Gates aren't in the Highway Code and are basically a restricted road, the only option for the motorist is a U turn!
 
I got caught as a visitor to Bristol I have no local knowledge but the fact this bus gate has caught so many people out means there is something wrong with its designed.

As per article

"If it keeps going at the current rate, it'll end up issuing over 120,000 fines this year, the national average for a bus gate is less than 5,000,"

Most bus lanes I’ve ever come across are a lane next to another lane for cars etc, this is not.

I agree I probably wasn't paying enough attention but I would have expected a sign like the one on the right ;)

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I'd love to see a breakdown of the fines to see how many were local vs visitors, this 'gate' is just down from the 'SS Great Britain' exhibit.
 
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sigma said:
Reading road signs and road markings isn't local knowledge though? Does being a visitor mean you stop looking at signs?

Like I said, it could be better marked but the real issue is people not paying attention. You litteraly drove onto a road that:

Is painted red
Has the word BUS on the floor
Has a sign of a camera
Has a blue warning sign
Has a no entry sign facing you, albeit on the other side of the road

Does being a visitor discount the above warnings? Or were you not paying attention?
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I fully accept I probably wasn't paying enough attention, I think I've acknowledged this, the fact that 120,000 people has been nabbed makes me feel that there is some element of it not being correctly designed.

Bus Gate is not in the Highway Code, I have no idea what a 'Bus Gate' is, I never encountered one before, again I've never had a situation where a 'bus lane' is the only 'lane' on offer.

Rather than a blue sign saying what's 'allowed', I expect a red sign as a warning

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I always love and expect these 'holier than though' messages, I accept I made a mistake, I've paid the fine.

The no entry sign is being held by the guy that's written a 150 document to the Council, it isn't actually there, he's saying that how it should be signed?
 
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sigma said:
It seems like some councils accept that the signs are not clear so there may be something to it. As I said, my view is that whilst they could be clearer, people should be paying enough attention to not miss the apparent 14 signs suggesting that it's not a normal road.
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Do you know the area and road in question then?
 
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