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Business CPU - high-end

RedvGreen

RedvGreen

RedvGreen

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Hi,

I am looking at replacing my business computers - I perform high-end computational tasks (working with datasets, terabytes of processing, and frequently get close to maxing our my 128GB RAM).

As it is a business computer, it will be left on 24/7 as some tasks take weeks to complete, so heat generation is a consideration. I’m looking at the i9 10900X-series however, would they overheat even with a triple Rad AIO water cooler or should they be stable?
 
You are concerned the computer will overheat your office? Regardless of cooling method the office will heat up the same.

It's impossible to know what cpu would best suite your situation.. Might be single threaded so any quad overclocked to 5ghz would be best.. Might be best to get a 32core cpu or quad with expensive gpu..
 
Is the software you use single-threaded, few-threaded, or does it make use of all the CPU cores? Because in the last case an Epyc or Threadripper 3990X solution beckons. BTW if these things take weeks to do their jobs, why aren't they in a server room? Actually, I'd be tempted to go Epyc anyway, simply for the gobs of RAM you can put in those boxes, even with a low-cored Epyc CPU.
 
Unless you are after peak single thread / core performance then maybe an old overclocked Intel chip, otherwise a Threadripper or Epyc sounds like your best bet.
 
Specify the software and type of data.

But the answer is usually Threadripper or EPYC these days.

Unless you're doing stuff with ancient archaic software written for old versions of the Intel compiler (which cripple non Intel performance), or all AVX-512, AMD typically crushes Intel in the workstation and server market in all 3 important categories. Absolute performance, performance per watt, and price.
 
Anything that requires 24/7 stability is not going to want to be overclocked, you probably want to test a tr3 system and see if you datasets scale well over more threads and whether with more threads will need nuch more RAM, 256Gb limit could restrict the sweet spot of cores vs RAM and EPYC will be the solution, or limiting cores to what fits within 256Gb.

That you are looking at 10900x suggests you don't need threads and might be fine with the entry level tr3 24c/48t chip?
 
I’d definitely go the threadripper route. Why would you go intel and pay more for less?

even the £400 3900X outperforms the 10900X.
 
RedvGreen said:
Hi,

I am looking at replacing my business computers - I perform high-end computational tasks (working with datasets, terabytes of processing, and frequently get close to maxing our my 128GB RAM).

As it is a business computer, it will be left on 24/7 as some tasks take weeks to complete, so heat generation is a consideration. I’m looking at the i9 10900X-series however, would they overheat even with a triple Rad AIO water cooler or should they be stable?
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Depends the usage, 3900X is faster than this and 3950X also, while both work well with just good air coolers.
If you want more in form of PCIe ports and up to 256GB ram 3960X or 3970X.
 
RedvGreen said:
As it is a business computer, it will be left on 24/7 as some tasks take weeks to complete, so heat generation is a consideration. I’m looking at the i9 10900X-series however, would they overheat even with a triple Rad AIO water cooler or should they be stable?
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I'd be looking at rackmount servers and locating them out of the office, even if you have to remote into them to start the work off. Server grade hardware is built for 24/7 load, and if it's business critical it's worth paying for, rather than using "enthusiast" grade hardware.

If you can't use rackmount servers for some reason, then purpose built "Workstation" grade hardware is available, that normally offers Dual Xeon processors, huge ram capacity and hardware that again is designed for 24/7 workload.

Water cooling generally has no place in a business environment.
 
Armageus said:
I'd be looking at rackmount servers and locating them out of the office, even if you have to remote into them to start the work off. Server grade hardware is built for 24/7 load, and if it's business critical it's worth paying for, rather than using "enthusiast" grade hardware.
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Yeah - as I've mentioned before many years back I built a bunch of servers using general consumer hardware I had lying about to run 24x7 under load running IRC related services (lots of logging, parsing and lookups - so only moderate CPU load but heavy heavy IO) - the results weren't pretty (I literally overheated to death more than one HDD and a PSU).

Although I had a machine running a Q6600 heavily overclocked for 2-3 years or so that was in use 24x7 doing various things like video encoding, folding, etc. etc. that lasted fine.
 
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