Buying tomorrow, any comments?

Gopher_By_Fende

Gopher_By_Fende

Gopher_By_Fende

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Hey guys,

been a while since I've posted and I haven't had much to do with building rigs for quite a while now. Since I'm not upto date on all the gear, I was hoping some of you could give my build a lookover, I'll be heading to OCUK tomorrow to buy it all :D I have discussed the build with a couple of mates who are more clued up than I am right now, but I'd like to know if you guys have any suggestions.

My aims were for a sub £1k rig with a decent amount of power and upgradability.

Samsung S24B300BS 24" Widescreen LED Monitor
AMD Bulldozer FX-6 Six Core 6200 Black Edition 3.80Ghz (Socket AM3+) Processor
Kingston HyperX RED Limited Edition 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
MSI HD 6870 OC 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Gigabyte 970A-UD3 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard
Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost
Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 700W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply
Cooler Master Silencio 550 Silent Tower Case - Black
Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM
Hitachi CH10N-BL Blu-Ray Reader / DVD±RW Drive

Any thoughts?
 
If they suggested the 6200 over the 3570k for gaming, there not that clued up.

I'd say blow the 1k and come back with this bad boy.


YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire HD 7850 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £190
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £181.99
1 x Samsung S24B300BS 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Glossy Black £139.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x Cooler Master Silencio 550 Silent Tower Case - Black £69.98
1 x MSI B75A-G43 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £69.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) £66.98
1 x Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 600W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £65.99
1 x Kingston HyperX RED Limited Edition 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3B1RK2/8GX) £43.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
1 x Sony Optiarc AD-5280S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £977.58 (includes shipping : £14.75).

 
Actually my mate did recommend i5 over the bulldozer. I did look at them, but on paper the BZ looked the better option, and was much cheaper, thou I'm starting to think I should just do what he says, since he's usually right ;). What exactly is it that would make a 3.4Ghz quad core better than a 3.8Ghz hex core?

If I did go with the i5, I'd probably be looking at this mobo - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-202-MS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261

for the simple reason that its got 2 sata6gb/s, and I'm getting 2 6gb/s drives, so may as well put them to best use I guess.

Also, you specced a CPU fan, is the stock fan not enough? I don't plan on overclocking it, and the money for that fan could go towards putting the BR drive back in :P
 
Ok, so here's my updated spec, everyone I ask seems to suggest i5 over bulldozer, and the M4 SSD arekgreenman suggested has excellent reviews too. I tipped just over 1k so I could keep the BR drive, and went for the mobo with 2 sata 6gb/s ports. What do you guys think?


YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire HD 7850 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £190
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £181.99
1 x Samsung S24B300BS 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Glossy Black £139.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £99.95
1 x MSI Z77A-G43 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £77.99
1 x Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 700W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £76.99
1 x Cooler Master Silencio 550 Silent Tower Case - Black £69.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) £66.98
1 x Hitachi CH10N-BL Blu-Ray Reader / DVD±RW Drive - OEM £55.99
1 x Kingston HyperX RED Limited Edition 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3B1RK2/8GX) £43.99
1 x Speedlink Vivo 2.1 Subwoofer System - Black (SL-8209-SBK) £29.99
1 x OcUK Professional 2.5" to 3.5" SSD Adaptor Plate - Black £4.99
Total : £1,038.84 (includes shipping : FREE).

 
unless you have blue ray player software go for a retail version of the blue ray players.

rest looks fine.

you can drop the psu to 650w if needs be and save some cash.
 
Gopher_By_Fende said:
Actually my mate did recommend i5 over the bulldozer. I did look at them, but on paper the BZ looked the better option, and was much cheaper, thou I'm starting to think I should just do what he says, since he's usually right ;). What exactly is it that would make a 3.4Ghz quad core better than a 3.8Ghz hex core?
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AMD Hexacore's don't come close to what Intel do with a much lesser core count. AMD CPUs are so outclassed in every field right now they just aren't viable, at almost any price. Don't count cores, it means nothing particularly if your programs don't make use of them, at which point it becomes even more pointless.

AMD are so far behind right now it's almost embaressing. I wouldn't use an AMD bulldozer or anything if you gave it to me. I'd sooner run a Core i3 on a Z77 motherboard until I could afford something better and then ebay the Core i3. You have nowhere to go once you've got a high-end AMD CPU, but with a mid-range or even entry level Intel Core CPU you have something better and with HUGE upgrade potential.

Don't waste your money on AMD ****. It really is ****. Their gfx cards aren't bad value though.
 
yeah intels operations per cycle are higher than amds, so they do more at less ghz, even a few years into the future and games are using 6 cores, the quad core intels would still be faster.
 
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