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faceman123

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So saw the new ad on the from bt about being more responsive then vm for gaming? What's you're experiences. Currently 200mb for £25 pm no phone with vm. Edinburgh doesn't have fttp yet :( so need he best I can get for csgo
 
I saw that. Thought it was quite a cheeky shot at VM. it'll be an average figure taken and will be barely better, probably not even by 5ms

You'll be lucky to get anything near the speed for what you pay with a DSL product.
 
Depends on your area. When I was studying at uni I was using Virgin, but was in a congested area so during the evening the latency was high as well as congested speeds. BT's network seems to handle congestion a lot better.
 
Based on my experiences this smacks of a cheap marketing gimmick with no substance behind it.

I've had both Infinity and VM and can't notice any difference in responsiveness.
 
Mikey C said:
Based on my experiences this smacks of a cheap marketing gimmick with no substance behind it.

I've had both Infinity and VM and can't notice any difference in responsiveness.
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You may not notice the difference, but the stats don't lie and show a difference. As to how valid to real world experiences those stats are, or if you can see them, that's a whole different question.
 
plusnet 80 mb:

C:\Users\Jon>tracert 37.122.208.248

Tracing route to 37.122.208.248 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms lo0.10.Central10.ptn-bng02.plus.net [195.166.130.190]
3 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms irb.10.PTW-CR02.plus.net [84.93.249.2]
4 7 ms 9 ms 7 ms ae2.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.4]
5 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms linx1-hex.webfusion.com [195.66.225.171]
6 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms hx8-cr4.core.webfusion.com [109.104.95.138]
7 12 ms 14 ms 20 ms xe-2-0-0.dr-slave.ld5.eng.webfusion.com [109.104.95.226]
8 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms 37.122.208.248

Trace complete.

Virgin 200 mb:

C:\Users\Jon>tracert 37.122.208.248

Tracing route to 37.122.208.248 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 3 ms 4 ms 2 ms 192.168.0.1
2 11 ms 24 ms 14 ms cpc5-tonb3-2-0-gw.croy.cable.virginm.net [82.40.186.1]
3 19 ms 12 ms 16 ms croy-core-2b-xe-803-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.228.125]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 21 ms 19 ms 19 ms nrth-bb-1c-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254.42.222]
6 20 ms 54 ms 24 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.18]
7 29 ms 19 ms 19 ms linx1-hex.webfusion.com [195.66.225.171]
8 23 ms 26 ms 25 ms hx8-cr4.core.webfusion.com [109.104.95.138]
9 21 ms 24 ms 29 ms xe-2-0-0.dr-slave.ld5.eng.webfusion.com [109.104.95.226]
10 22 ms 22 ms 26 ms 37.122.208.248

Trace complete.

I imagine virgin pings will be slightly lower if hub was in modem only mode.
Overall not a massive difference except the speed.

Plusnet:



Virgin:



Both run from same property unsure why it thinks im so far away on the plusnet one.
 
Because the distance is from your ISP's IP allocated to you. It can't actually see your physical home's location, that would be a scary power, something the government would try grab hold of. :D
 
BT focus mainly on their higher upstream speeds and upstream jitter, which VDSL is better than DOCSIS


They also claim they have a better percentage of customers that can get the max speed, but the max speed of BT depends on the distance you are from the cab.

They use a MacBook Pro and a Galaxy phone to test the wireless, which I found a bit strange, I thought they would have tested with a few popular wireless adapters. They also don't mention if both the SH2ac and Homehub 5 were set to optimal wireless setting, or even if the same wireless channel was used.

Whether they tried to present a non technical report, or leaving themselves open to cherry pick results, who know?



It is easy to cherry pick results if BT cherry pick their demographic wisely, as VM have quite a few utilisation problems at the moment where anything will outperform VM.
 
To be fair BT seem to have put a bit of work into optimising the network for gaming recently - more direct peering with the bigger brand GSPs and less hops through BT - I used to be anywhere upto 15-16 hops to multiplay's servers for instance on BT now its 7 or 8 hops depending on the server.
 
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