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Hi there,

I got my beloved Nikon D80 and all my lenses (Apart from my 1.8 50mm) nicked in a burglary last week :(
Due to the terms of the rubbish insurance I had, I am not getting that much back for it all... so my budget is not huge.

Whilst I would certainly not class myself as a serious photographer, but more someone that likes to take a nice camera out every now and then, what would people recommend? To be honest I always found the D80 and its lenses a bit bulky to carry around -esp. when going abroad and trying to pack it all into hand luggage so something a bit more compact would be ideal. My mate bought an Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark III and loves it, and his photos look pretty good to be fair. Are these mirrorless solutions the way to go these days? Any specific recommendations are appreciated :)

Thanks!
 
Given your budget I would recommend a fuji xt10. You can regularly get them refurbed from fuji store for a good price.

I have one with my eos r and on quick walkabouts etc it's my go too. Decent connectivivity with the phone app and images even when paired with half decent well sized glass are nice.

https://shop.fujifilm.co.uk/fujifilm-x-t10-body-only-refurbished.html
 
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Looks nice and decent price too- thanks I will give this a close look as one option :) I also have a load of Heathrow Rewards vouchers to spend so hopefully the duty free at Heathrow sells lenses for this bad boy.
 
The Fujifilm will be a good replacemt for the D80 as it has the same size sensor. But I'd still look at the Olympus and Panasonic range of M43 cameras purely due to size and weight of camera and lenses.

Noticed you are in Brixton. From Streatham Hill here.
 
EGuitarStar said:
The Fujifilm will be a good replacemt for the D80 as it has the same size sensor. But I'd still look at the Olympus and Panasonic range of M43 cameras purely due to size and weight of camera and lenses.

Noticed you are in Brixton. From Streatham Hill here.
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Ah I'm just a bit further down than you - near the prison :)

any specific models I should look at from them?
 
EGuitarStar said:
The Olympus EM10 III, Panasonic GX9 and G80 are models which I'd look into.

What is your actual budget?
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I am not sure what my insurance company will give me yet, but I would say around up to £500 for a body and a lens or 2.

Minstadave said:
Are you looking for a system to invest deeply in for years? Or will it just be a body and a lens
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and @Minstadave yes I want to invest in a system - get a telephoto and macro lens at some point too.

Thanks all!
 
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So doing some more research, the Olympus EM10 III, GX85 and Fuji XT-10 all look good.

The XT10 is well priced but getting a little old now and has poor video capture. Also Fuji lenses seem really expensive!
The GX85 is apparently nearly as good as the GX9 but much cheaper. Some good deals on it out there.
The Olympus seems to be a nice compromise with good handling, good video capabilities, and there are some very good deals with 2x lenses around it seems. It seems to have a tendency to apply too much processing to photos (Saturation, sharpening) though, which is a concern

Looking at a few cam review sites, these all seem to be highly rated (The Fuji DOES have poor video capture though but it seems offers some fairly stunning photos thanks to its excellent image processing and lenses) and is cheaper.

I am wondering if I just look for the best deal I can find on these models and go for that as they all seem to be excellent cameras?
 
They're all good, I've got the GX85 and a load of m43 lenses.

Personally though if buying new I'd probably look to Fuji. I like that they support their cameras with regular firmware updates. They have weather sealed primes that don't cost a fortune, and the bigger sensor makes a small difference.

I'm also slightly dubious on the future of m43 with Panasonic moving towards full frame and Olympus only interested in their high end bodies currently. Whereas Fuji seem quite comefortable with their APSC sensor.
 
Minstadave said:
They're all good, I've got the GX85 and a load of m43 lenses.

Personally though if buying new I'd probably look to Fuji. I like that they support their cameras with regular firmware updates. They have weather sealed primes that don't cost a fortune, and the bigger sensor makes a small difference.

I'm also slightly dubious on the future of m43 with Panasonic moving towards full frame and Olympus only interested in their high end bodies currently. Whereas Fuji seem quite comefortable with their APSC sensor.
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XT10 then?
 
The Fujifilm XT20 will be more worthwhile camera if you can stretch your budget a tiny bit, with the soon to be announced XT30 you might be able to find good deals on the XT20.
 
Minstadave said:
I'm also slightly dubious on the future of m43 with Panasonic moving towards full frame and Olympus only interested in their high end bodies currently. Whereas Fuji seem quite comefortable with their APSC sensor.
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I reckon they'll continue to develop m43, all the others apart from Olympus have 2 systems which they offer and develop.

M43 still has some advantages over Apsc and Full Frame. IBIS and physical size and weight of camera body and lenses.

Anyway, didn't you purchase a G9 in December? :D
 
EGuitarStar said:
I reckon they'll continue to develop m43, all the others apart from Olympus have 2 systems which they offer and develop.

M43 still has some advantages over Apsc and Full Frame. IBIS and physical size and weight of camera body and lenses.

Anyway, didn't you purchase a G9 in December? :D
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I did :) But I had a load of lenses and with the expectation it may be my last m43 body. I will end up moving systems in all likelihood with my next body in a few years time.
 
Minstadave said:
I personally would stretch to the XT20 as suggested above. Seems like a good all round camera with a more modern sensor than the XT10.
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Thanks guys - really liking to look of the XT20. Its definitely more than I wanted to spend, but I hope this is a system I can invest in (and that it is the right thing to do!).

I'll look out for a decent package
 
Went Fuji X-T20 with an XC16-50 lens to get me started - will see how I get on and go from there :)
 
With offerings like the Fuji XT-20 and Sony A6500, I personally don't see the point in investing in m4/3 at this time, and I say this as someone who has used m4/3 for about a decade now and currently own an E-P5. The size difference of those 2 cameras mentioned and m4/3 systems is not that huge, but m4/3 sensor technology it feels like has peaked, with no where really to grow without a major technological advancement. My 6 year old Ricoh GR destroys my E-P5 in sharpness, dynamic range (by a huge margin) and low light performance.
 
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