Cameron has achieved something!

King Damager · 8 Feb 2013 at 22:08

Achieved the budget he wanted, as such in the eu:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21379667

Personal opinion:
I don't really care about the budget being cut, I do acknowledge the fact that by going to the eu, and getting the deal that he wanted, that that's a bit achievement. Arguably showing a shift in power in the EU.

kd

Bennie-Mac · 8 Feb 2013 at 22:36

Good for him, this means there now won't be a referendum?

Destination · 8 Feb 2013 at 22:42

Step in the right direction.

Ilikeitblackplease · 9 Feb 2013 at 00:04

But we are still going to pay more, lol, and its still an increase but at a lower rate, how is that cause to be happy, the budget hasn't been cut.

troops · 9 Feb 2013 at 00:15

Just PR rubbish, maybe he guarranteed no referendum to all the EU cronies to try and appease us.

Shayper · 9 Feb 2013 at 00:39

Bloody hell! Maybe my vote was worth something, hopefully time will tell.

Speirs · 9 Feb 2013 at 01:18

I still don't trust 99.99% of politicians.
So out of touch with Joe Public but come election time they are on Joe Public's doorstep promising you the 'World' for you to vote for them.....
Then their promises vanish into thin air until the next election and then they come knocking on your door again.

hola_adios · 9 Feb 2013 at 03:04

Hikari Kisugi said:
Step in the right direction.

Oh yes, we just managed to slaughter most of the research budget, while keeping the subsidies for sectors which shouldn't have them and infrastructures to fuel some imaginary trade ... yes, certainly the right direction :rolleyes:

Freakbro · 9 Feb 2013 at 06:31

Shayper said:
Bloody hell! Maybe my vote was worth something, hopefully time will tell.

No, it really wasn't . . .

I can't decipher what they mean...is it a cut in the actual amount of budget, or is it an increase less than inflation so they can call it a cut in real terms..

If it's the first (or even the second) and we are paying more, then are we ending up paying a higher % contribution to the overall budget...

Dolph · 9 Feb 2013 at 07:30

Our contribution continues to go up because of the capitulation of Tony Blair in the last budget where he
threw away parts of our rebate for the promise of future CAP reform that has just not happened.

The eu budget is still a horrifically bloated, horrible mess that we are the second highest net contributor to.

Nate75 · 9 Feb 2013 at 07:32

Dolph said:
The eu budget is still a horrifically bloated, horrible mess that we are the second highest net contributor to.

Freakbro · 9 Feb 2013 at 07:34

I just wanted to know the facts, not the spin..

Btw, how's the big society working for you Dolph?

Dolph · 9 Feb 2013 at 07:37

Freakbro said:
I just wanted to know the facts, not the spin..

Btw, how's the big society working for you Dolph?

Facts, real term cut in total budget. increase in our contribution following budget realignment and 2005 rebate changes, however increase is less than originally proposed.

big society is working fine thanks, would work better if people werent so obsessed with 'free' services that are anything but...

MrMoonX · 9 Feb 2013 at 07:52

Wait for the uturn

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teenwolf · 9 Feb 2013 at 07:57

Still don't trust them

deuse · 9 Feb 2013 at 08:16

"European Parliament could still block the package" UKIP will do well out of this.

Destination · 9 Feb 2013 at 08:47

hola_adios said:
Oh yes, we just managed to slaughter most of the research budget, while keeping the subsidies for sectors which shouldn't have them and infrastructures to fuel some imaginary trade ... yes, certainly the right direction

Perhaps, yet the article states research budgets were preserved, while agricultural budgets were cut.
Perhaps the devil is in the detail, but the article states the opposite of what are saying.

hola_adios · 9 Feb 2013 at 10:29

Dolph said:
Facts, real term cut in total budget. increase in our contribution following budget realignment and 2005 rebate changes, however increase is less than originally proposed.

big society is working fine thanks, would work better if people werent so obsessed with 'free' services that are anything but...

I still do not know why you don't try the US, had a nice chat with a friend of mines the other day, bright scientist, and just came to a point in the conversation were he said - coming to a certain point if Maddie (wife) or me get ill and is something which will mean lots of stays at Hospital, the one who is healthy will let the other one die .... - this is happening all over the society. So, I couldn't agree with you more it is a very civilised system and the clear consequence of your i"deal model", you should pack up and start going, I will carry on paying my (very high) tax bill.

Now, "big society"? BS quite an app acronym.

Danthus · 9 Feb 2013 at 10:34

The UK's contribution has gone up.

Nice one Dave.

RDM · 9 Feb 2013 at 10:37

hola_adios said:
I still do not know why you don't try the US, had a nice chat with a friend of mines the other day, bright scientist, and just came to a point in the conversation were he said - coming to a certain point if Maddie (wife) or me get ill and is something which will mean lots of stays at Hospital, the one who is healthy will let the other one die .... - this is happening all over the society. So, I couldn't agree with you more it is a very civilised system and the clear consequence of your i"deal model", you should pack up and start going, I will carry on paying my (very high) tax bill.

Now, "big society"? BS quite an app acronym.

Is anyone here (other than groen) actually arguing for a US style health system? But then I suppose a made up position is easier to argue against...

Cameron has achieved something!

Wise Guy