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Can you help re latest Ryzen/Threadripper differences for gaming?

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I'm not tekky so forgive me if I'm grossly oversimplifying things here (or if I've got it completely wrong!).
Is Threadripper essentially 2 Ryzens stuck together to increase the cores?

I'm going to be buying a whole new rig soon so I'm trying to get my head around how the whole CPU hierarchy fits together these days (including Intel).

Is there going to be any real value to purchasing a Threadripper chip over the latest Ryzen for gaming?

Or how about longevity - would it be more sensible to go down the Threadripper path thinking it's likely to have a longer shelf-life in terms of future chip production?

I'm more than happy to be enlightened and have any misconceptions corrected - it's all a learning curve for me, but equally I'd like to get things right when I do buy the stuff.

thanks

Chris.
 
Threadripper is not worth it for gaming, end of. The 3900X rubs shoulders with the 1950X and 2950X and gave the 1920/2920X a bloody nose in most benchmarks I've seen. The 3950X will probably give the 2970WX a run for it's money. The only reason to get threadripper is if you need the pcie lanes and/or the number of cores. I bought my 1920X as I wanted both the cores and needed the pcie lanes.

A longer life seems unlikely too as X399 is already retired after just 2 years and will not be compatible with 3rd gen threadripper cpus, so who knows how long TRX40/80 will last.
 
No, Threadripper is not 2 Ryzens stuck together.

Threadripper 1 and 2 are not gaming platforms and in most cases offered inferior gaming performance to desktop Ryzen chips. That is very likely to change when Threadripper 3 lands next month, but Threadripper is still not a gaming platform, it's a workstation platform that will be able to game well. So if you're only looking at gaming then you want a desktop Ryzen.

As for longevity, you're actually coming in at the tail end of support now. Existing 400 and 500 series Ryzen motherboards will only have 1 more generation of CPU left in them before it all changes (about 2 years). But that's certainly better than Intel who enforce a board change with every CPU generation. X399 for Threadripper 1 and 2 might not even support Threadripper 3.

As for Intel, there's nothing in their desktop portfolio now or for the next few years that can touch Ryzen, so unless you're operating in some fringe case that still benefits from Intel then you'll get significantly better performance and value from Ryzen 3000.

So, in summary: don't get Threadripper for gaming, only get Threadripper 3 with its matching new boards if you need an insane workstation. Don't bother with Intel. Ryzen 3000 is the way to go here and now.
 
The new TR boards will offer more in the way of future upgrade options but the cost is disproportionate compared to AM4 for gaming. The 3950X on a X570 board should see you good for many years of gaming at a much more reasonable price.
 
jigger said:
The new TR boards will offer more in the way of future upgrade options but the cost is disproportionate compared to AM4 for gaming. The 3950X on a X570 board should see you good for many years of gaming at a much more reasonable price.
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This is what I'm looking at over the next few weeks; 4790k has done me well for a good few years now, and I'm looking at moving onto the next big thing to cover me again!
 
TR is overkill for gaming unless you are also using the rig for production work.

The most money you can spend without looking back and saying why did I bother with AMD at the moment is probably 3950/although probably 3900x.

Saying that my 3700x is probably more than I need for a while, but I have the option of maxing out Zen2 if it ages more poorly without having to completely respec.

I would spend the money on fast ram and a decent x570 board and settle for a 37/3800x and have the option to sell and swap for a 3950 in the future if needed. I think Zen 2 is going to age well.
 
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