Canon 7D or Nikon d7000?

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New to SLR's and Really confused:confused:

I'm used to using bridge cameras and fed up with there inconsistent pics, I was originally going to buy a 650d or nikon d7000 but google OCD has taken over!

I want very sharp images and I like doing landscape shots and astrophotography and lowlight indoor shots ..I have been reading that there is focus issues with both camera due to faults with camera AF systems and nikon sensor :confused:


Canon 7d

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1267124

http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00b2hN?start=10

Nikon D7000

http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=5557

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/39975647

Are these cameras too advanced for a beginner ? I like to learn though :) I tried a 7d and loved the feel of it and its speed;)

Anyone tried Hdew for buying cameras ?
 
They perform pretty similarly as far as I'm aware. The 7D has better video performance if I remember correctly but other than that they are fairly equal.

It's purely down to ergonomics IMO.

I have a 7D personally and it's pretty good, although I wish I had a 5D! I wouldn't say it's particularly too advanced for a beginner as once you understand the relationship between ISO, aperture and shutter speed you have everything you need to know in order to use it properly.
 
Have you shot in manual using your Bridge?

I went straight from a bridge to a 6D. I'm still learning, but it's not too hard to work everything out. So yeah, you'd manage with those two.

But, why not the 7dmkii or the D7100?

kd
 
if you want very sharp images then the d7100 is better, No low pass filter, however the sharpness is only as good as the glass you put on the camera.
 
For spots you probably want the 7d, for anything else the d7000 is the obvious choice, especially for landscape.
 
It has a better AF system, better than either the 7D or D7000. The sensors is improved slightly but probably not noticeably much over the D7000 unless you use some very good glass at optimal settings (Dynamic range and noise performance at high ISO are equivalent when normalized).

The main advantage to the 7D would be the speed which is useful for sports, but IQ is well below average for this class of camera (compared to Nikon, Sony, Pentax and even the smaller sensored Olympus m43 cameras).

The D7100 has a state of the art, top of line professional series auto focus system that exceeds both other cameras. As long has you don't machine gun and hope for the best then the D7100 is a phenomenal camera.
 
Anyone suffered from focus issues with D7000 and D7100:confused: Reading the focus issues on amazon has made me paranoid:mad:
 
MINUS12 said:
Anyone suffered from focus issues with D7000 and D7100:confused: Reading the focus issues on amazon has made me paranoid:mad:
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Almost all of the reports of focus issues with the D7000 were in peoples imagination - poor technique, poor understanding of the AF system, bad testing,not understanding the increased pixel density, etc. Very few turned out to be a true issue and were fixed painlessly.

I expect it is just the same with the D7100, people don't understand things like field curvature or how phase detection works, the high pixel density just highlights bad techniques.

If you want to know the bottom line about faults with Nikon gear then browse Thom Hogans brilliant site: www.bythom.com
he at least properly examines multiple bodies and tries to conduct reasonable surveys. For the D800 know left focus issue he published very detailed guidelines for testing and asked people to send in their results, he had to discount a vast majority because people could not even follow the clear directions precisely to eliminate issues like lens malfunctions. Through the noise he did discover a clear pattern of errors with the D800 and was very critical of Nikon for that but the true error rate compared to peoples preconceived notions was a tiny fraction. There was a similar thread on dpreview with loads of people complaining they have issues when they simply tested wrong (simply had the target not parallel with sensor plane so it looked like a classic left-side focus issue, except the left side was further form the sensor!)
 
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Thanks for the reassurance guys :) Gotta stop reading those amazon reviews seriously as its literally stopped me buying one :eek:
 
D.P. said:
Almost all of the reports of focus issues with the D7000 were in peoples imagination ....
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It seems to be the current vogue, especially in dpreview forums, to be OCD about focus issues. The same happened with the D800 I think, where a few were found to be out but then average joe at home started setting up ridiculous looking home made tests to prove that their equipment was wrong.


The Nikon 7100 looks like a great camera, and given the money would have been my choice. Enjoy it :)
 
If your camera doesn't focus correctly, it isn't fun.. you lose shots. The people crying OCD, are probably shooting at F5.6 with a kit lens.. of course these users are not going to 'get it', to them everything is in focus.
 
Apologies for hijacking the thread but the query is still on topic. ;)

Simple question , D7000 body and lens or D7100 and kit lens ?

Shooting holiday scenery and portraits, motogp, track days.

Looking to buy and the sheer confusion over bodies and lenses is really getting me nowhere fast :(

Just for the sake of clarity , I am most definately a beginner but keen to learn !
 
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If your camera doesn't focus correctly, it isn't fun.. you lose shots. The people crying OCD, are probably shooting at F5.6 with a kit lens.. of course these users are not going to 'get it', to them everything is in focus.
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No one says that AF issues are fun but the fact is a vast majority who claim to have focus issues simply have not tested their camera appropriately to verify if there is an issue with the camera or lens, or their technique - even after given detailed, precise and easy to follow instructions most people fail to conduct a substantive test.

With the D800 most people failed to understand lens field curvature, how phase detection works or the importance of having a properly aligned target. When there was an issue most turned out to be miscalibrated lenses, which is a given based on the design tolerances and random chance or mis-aligned lens elements, rather than faulty bodies.
here was a real underlying issue in some small fraction of bodies but it was no where near wide spread as the internet would have you believe. And even if the failure rate was much higher most people wouldn't know because their techniques was not adequate to discount other reasons for error.


For the D7000 I am not sure it was shown to ever actually be any kind of systematic error, simply people moving form 6MP bodies to 16MP and finding their technique is bad or their lenses broken, certainly not like with the D800 where under all the noise there was a definite consistent error.
 
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