CAPTCHAS and being visual impaired

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Pawnless Endgame

Pawnless Endgame

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CAPTCHA tests are meant to distinguish between humans and robots. They started out years ago as disguised letters/numbers and they were difficult enough as they were back then. Now, they're incorporating boxes and you have to tick the ones that contain a subject e.g. cars, road signs and shop fronts. The 3 examples I did below came back as incorrect and it took me about 12 attempts to log into Just-Eat in the end. All I wanted to do was to track my curry that was due to be delivered in about 10 minutes time! Is there any group or body that I can go to to make a complaint? I can't complain to Just-Eat because it's a number of firms that started using this type of test all of a sudden. Surely it's grounds for discrimination too?

Surely the bog standard 2FA is the best form of security if it's just consumer computing?

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Whatever, you robot.



Seriously though, yeah they suck. I'm not visually impaired at all and yet sometimes they say I'm wrong when I'm clearly right. I can see how if you're at a disadvantage in terms of vision it's even worse.
 
I know what you mean, regarding the traffic lights, you might be meant to tick where the pole it also. But it's the same for me, takes loads of attempts. I've seen a swipe one once on mobile which is a good idea, easy to use.
 
I hate those things, it seems like half the time it says your wrong even when you clearly aren't :/

I think it's one inept company supplying the same broken system to loads of sites because I see the same issue all over the place.
 
Google write captcha and when you have to tick a box that’s using v2. V3 doesn’t involve ticking a box and tracks your behaviour over the whole website to see how roboty you are so less likely to get a challenge.

What you are doing though is helping google program their ai in cars for free.
 
ScoTTyBEEE said:
Google write captcha and when you have to tick a box that’s using v2. V3 doesn’t involve ticking a box and tracks your behaviour over the whole website to see how roboty you are so less likely to get a challenge.

What you are doing though is helping google program their ai in cars for free.
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This is what I heard too.

Why would Google pay for hundreds of A.I. developers to recognise images of crossings, traffic lights, hydrants, etc, when it can get thousands (millions?) of humans to do the work for them, and for free?
 
1. Stop using the phrase 2FA, that's not a thing. It's MFA
2. Captcha in all good places is now just a tick box to say you are not a robot.
 
Cheers guys. I'll try the audio button again when I'm in a quieter place, as I was on a bus when I last tried it and couldn't hear what it was saying.

The screenshots are clearly from a mobile but I get the same CAPTCHAs on desktop as well. I think it's just better to use 2FA for existing accounts e.g. Just-Eat, although I normally keep Just-Eat logged in. The irony was that after the 12 or so failed attempts to track my curry, there was a knock on my front door and there he was with the curry lol
 
Whilst I agree that the tickboxes are annoying and prone to error, you could argue that there are incorrectly ticked/unticked boxes in all 3 of your examples.
 
planty said:
Whilst I agree that the tickboxes are annoying and prone to error, you could argue that there are incorrectly ticked/unticked boxes in all 3 of your examples.
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You clearly missed the visually impaired part...

Ironic.
 
planty said:
Whilst I agree that the tickboxes are annoying and prone to error, you could argue that there are incorrectly ticked/unticked boxes in all 3 of your examples.
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Nowhere near enough to be refused generally. It doesn’t have to be even close to exact, just not blatantly wrong.
 
enkoda said:
This is what I heard too.

Why would Google pay for hundreds of A.I. developers to recognise images of crossings, traffic lights, hydrants, etc, when it can get thousands (millions?) of humans to do the work for them, and for free?
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The old ones where you had two words to guess. One of them was from a scan from their big book project that the computer couldn’t work out.

The system has been reported as displaying over 100 million CAPTCHAs every day

Some have criticized Google for using reCAPTCHA as a source of unpaid labor.[29] They say Google is unfairly using people around the world to help it transcribe books, addresses, and newspapers, and label image data for its driverless car effort without any compensation.[30]In response to this criticism, competitors have emerged promising unique value propositions like compensating the website host or end-user for the work they do.[31]

The use of reCAPTCHA has been labelled "a serious barrier to internet use" for people with sight problems or disabilities such as dyslexia by BBC journalist Stephanie Hegarty.[32]
 
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