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I witnessed the aftermath of a car crash this morning made me feel sick all day but there is a question I would like some discussion on.

The scene

I was driving toward Newcastle at about 8.20. Was on the stretch of road from Whitemare Pool to Heworth Metro Station (if any one know it).

It had been snowing overnight and the roads were a but iced up but nothing too bad.

It may help to describe the road. It is a dual carriage way with a limit of 50. There is a speed camera on the carriage way heading into Newcastle area. This road however many people often ignore the speed limits on the other carriage way heading away from Newcastle (this will become important later). Between the 2 carriageways is some metal fencing about 5 foot ish high.

I passed a car crash that could have only happened moments ago.

A N reg Clio had been heading on the carriage way coming from Newcastle and had some how skidded and turned 90 degrees and smashed into the metal fencing. Is I drove passed i could see a person in the passenger side in a very bad way. There was a man with a radio (not police) looking into the car and I presume seeking assistance from the emergency services. I did not get a good view but I could not see the driver. Also it looked like the passengers head was pouring with blood and he may have been impaled on one of the metal fencing rods as it had penetrated the car from the passenger side window.

Now you are probably thinking what an unfortunate accident and hope the guy gets better etc however my final observation is what I would like peoples opinion on.

On the hard shoulder of the carriage way the car was driving along was a mobile speed camera unit only 10 or so yards down from where the accident happened and the person looking into the car with the radio was the person who was from that van.

My question is this was the speed camera van in some way responsible for the accident? and if it hadnt been there would the accident have happened?

I havent posted my opinion on this so please dont flame me. However on my "limited" knowledge and view it would appear that the clio was going too fast saw the mobile camera unit braked heavy and the skidded on some black ice.

What do other people think.
 
iCraig said:
So the accident had just occurred? With no paramedics on the scene?

Didn't you stop to help?

Why would I have stopped to help. I didnt have anything to help the situation.
Also there was the guy from the camera van offering assistance and requesting emergency services.


Soupyuk it is possible that the camera van came post accident however from its partially hidden location facing on coming traffic on the hard shoulder as the camera is mointed in the rear of the van I would guess that it was there first however I can not be 100% sure.

This is one of those horrible scenes you see where no matter how you try to explain it to yourself it just doesnt make sense. Thats why I was asking for other peoples opinions.
 
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for anyone that is interested see this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/4774720.stm

it would seem that the person I saw in the passengers seat was in fact the driver.
I hope he is ok and I would not wish that on anyone.

In resopnse to iCraig now is the time for me to help with the situation and inform the police as to what I saw. As this is the best way for me to help him.
 
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