!!Car trouble- help please!!

jonnyc90 · 24 Dec 2006 at 10:40

Hi, mum just tried to start our car, which is a Peugeot 307 estate (1.6 I think).

When she started it it sounded kinda tractorish and there was no power. then on the screen a message 'catalytic converter fault' came up, and then the second time 'anit-pollution control fault' or something like that.

Does anyone know what needs to be done?

The RAC are coming but in ages and we need to go out

Thanks JonnyC

Firegod · 24 Dec 2006 at 10:46

jonnyc90 said:
When she started it it sounded kinda tractorish and there was no power.

Sounds like it perhaps dropped a cylinder?

-gem- · 24 Dec 2006 at 10:56

tractor noises are fatal in cars, usually means they have had some kind of really bad bump on the head and are confused about who they really are.

so, i think the best thing to do would be to let it go peacefully...

scrap it.

jonnyc90 · 24 Dec 2006 at 10:56

Yer looked around a bit and it seems that it is a fairly common problem

moss · 24 Dec 2006 at 11:05

If its a loud clattering sound, it sounds pretty serious, mechanical fault as opposed to electrical. Could possibly be the bottom end going or something along those lines.
307's arent known to be reliable unfortunatly.

jonnyc90 · 24 Dec 2006 at 11:18

Mr RAC just came and he said that the coil at the top of the engine is going/ gone but it is fine now and we just went for a drive.

Effectively one cylinder wasn't firing so petrol was being pumped into the catalytic converter hence the 'Antipollution fault.'

He couldnt tell which coil was faulty as they are in pairs or something but we are going to get it fixed after the Xmas period

Gilly · 24 Dec 2006 at 16:55

-gem- said:
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Please stop posting absolute crap before you force me to stop you

ci_newman · 24 Dec 2006 at 17:57

Gilly said:
Please stop posting absolute crap before you force me to stop you

If you re-read her post, I think it was meant in jest

Enough people lay into Rover HGs without knowing their faults- surely she is allowed to make a comment about Peugeot reliabiliy

Good news to the OP though, had I come along earlier I would've suggested a blocked CAT or non-firing cylinder

Hawk Tuah · 24 Dec 2006 at 18:01

Dodgey coil pack eh. Dont forget which one the RAC man said it was! Get a new one orderd and fit it yourself. Dead simple job. Its just the thing that plugs onto the spark plug.

Not sure how much yours are. They're £50 each for my car.

Malachy · 24 Dec 2006 at 18:37

yeah coil packs are commen on pugs now they switched from using reasonably reliable bosch units to cheap sagem replicas towards the end of the 1990's, the sagems often fail and have been known to take the ecu with them

Matt82 · 24 Dec 2006 at 18:44

if you really want to know, get the spark plugs out and see which are dirty.

or just take the car to the dealer, get them to fix it, then bend over their desk and take your trousers down.

GT3 · 24 Dec 2006 at 19:04

Bug One said:
Dodgey coil pack eh. Dont forget which one the RAC man said it was! Get a new one orderd and fit it yourself. Dead simple job. Its just the thing that plugs onto the spark plug.

Not sure how much yours are. They're £50 each for my car.

On my car the coilpack is all one unit for all 4 cylinders. I assume being a PSA engine the Peugeot is also the same.

Malachy · 24 Dec 2006 at 20:06

GT3 said:
On my car the coilpack is all one unit for all 4 cylinders. I assume being a PSA engine the Peugeot is also the same.

not allways, your engine wont have a cam sensor and will run wasted spark (atleast thats what i rmember from the tu5jp4), some run single coil on plug using a cam sensor so it has 4 coils within the coil pack rather than 2 coils in your coil pack that each fire 2 cylinders.

the s16 and gti6 use this as do a fair few of the newer pug engines (ew series etc)

TaKeN · 24 Dec 2006 at 20:26

ci_newman said:
If you re-read her post, I think it was meant in jest Enough people lay into Rover HGs without knowing their faults- surely she is allowed to make a comment about Peugeot reliabiliy

Good news to the OP though, had I come along earlier I would've suggested a blocked CAT or non-firing cylinder

Its the third post ive read within the hour telling someone its knackered and it needs scrapping.

Amps · 24 Dec 2006 at 22:02

jonnyc90 said:
Hi, mum just tried to start our car, which is a Peugeot 307 estate (1.6 I think).

When she started it it sounded kinda tractorish and there was no power. then on the screen a message 'catalytic converter fault' came up, and then the second time 'anit-pollution control fault' or something like that.

Does anyone know what needs to be done?

The RAC are coming but in ages and we need to go out

Thanks JonnyC

I have a 2.0L petrol 307.

I have had these messages all to many times in my 307.

On separate occasions the fault was due to.

Faulty engine tappets.
Faulty accelerator sensor
Faulty Ignition , Peugeot replaced part of it

And it happen about to weeks ago then went away.

I would say the fault could be due to the tappets as this is exactly the symptoms my car had. The car ran VERY rough when started from cold and this would eventually easy off.
When the car is in this anti-pollution mode it goes into limp home mode which limits the power to about 3K revs.

Either way unless the problem goes away itself I doubt it will be cheap.

Thankfully for me all the above faults happened under warranty , the worrying thing is my car is now out of warranty just waiting for yet another big fault to happen.

Good luck with it , and keep us updated on what the fault it

How old is your car?

chief barker · 3 Apr 2007 at 09:59

Sorry to resurrect an old thread guys but, my 4 year old 307 (29k) is making a tappety noise at the top of the engine, It sounds a bit like crickets, the car is running fine but the noise is driving me nuts, however the noise disappears when the car has warmed up.

It only seems to make the noise when the engine is not accelerating i.e when I change gear and the revs die down. If I hold the revs at 1800 it makes the noise constantly.

Could it be the tappets or coil pack? Any ideas guys.

I am very reluctant to put it into peugeot as they are expensive.

Firegod · 3 Apr 2007 at 10:12

chief barker said:
Sorry to resurrect an old thread guys but, my 4 year old 307 (29k) is making a tappety noise at the top of the engine, It sounds a bit like crickets, the car is running fine but the noise is driving me nuts, however the noise disappears when the car has warmed up.

It only seems to make the noise when the engine is not accelerating i.e when I change gear and the revs die down. If I hold the revs at 1800 it makes the noise constantly.

Could it be the tappets or coil pack? Any ideas guys.

I am very reluctant to put it into peugeot as they are expensive.

Sounds like tappets mate. But, make sure you are running a decent oil as well. Running incorrect grade or cheap oil can make some engines sound worse for wear.

Tesla · 3 Apr 2007 at 10:12

chief barker said:
Sorry to resurrect an old thread guys but, my 4 year old 307 (29k) is making a tappety noise at the top of the engine, It sounds a bit like crickets, the car is running fine but the noise is driving me nuts, however the noise disappears when the car has warmed up.

It only seems to make the noise when the engine is not accelerating i.e when I change gear and the revs die down. If I hold the revs at 1800 it makes the noise constantly.

Could it be the tappets or coil pack? Any ideas guys.

I am very reluctant to put it into peugeot as they are expensive.

Maybe it's the cambelt is a little loose and rattling around, when the engine warms up it will tension the belt slightly curing the problem. I would get it checked out as if the belt slips it will be game over.

If there is a cam belt cover you could remove it and see if the problem goes away.

If it's not this then perhaps tappets, seems low mileage for this though.

chief barker · 3 Apr 2007 at 10:23

I have been poking around under the bonnet and i believe the noise is coming from the top middle of the engine and not the belt side. It seems strange the noise disappears when I acclelerate.

I really don't want to spend any money on it as i am saving for a merc at the moment.

Any other ideas?.

chief barker · 3 Apr 2007 at 10:30

Firegod said:
Sounds like tappets mate. But, make sure you are running a decent oil as well. Running incorrect grade or cheap oil can make some engines sound worse for wear.

I had the oil changed back in december and my mechanic used 10/40 semi synthetic oil, whereas peugeot had been using Magnatec 10/40, however these symptoms have only appeared in the last 3 weeks so maybe it's not the oil?.

The car gives the right hump when I go out in it now (so my wife says anyway).