Career in HGV driving

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Hi,

Firstly I thought id post this in GD as I feel its a more apropriate place to talk about a career than motors...

Im looking for advice on this career choice really, and any in-house HGV driver opinions, do you enjoy your job? whats the perks? downsides etc?

Anyway, so Im 21 and stuck in a job I dont enjoy. Ive been thinking for a while that Id like a career in HGV driving.

Ive looked up the training courses and it seems its going to cost a couple of thousand pounds to get my cat C+E (class 1). I understand that before i can get this I need to get my cat c (rigid class 2).


Now, all of these training companys claim that theres always thousands of HGV jobs out there, and there always will be, even in times like these...

But Im not sure how true this is... as I hear of drivers being made redundant etc...

Is there still a big demand for drivers?

any help would be great thanks! :D
 
I think that the chap on here who works for Eddie Stobbart/Irlams said that the majority of newer drivers start with Agency work and then once they have a few years under their belt they move onto bigger companies.

It's something I could never do, it would do my head in being away from home so much!
 
your be very lucky to find a company that would take you on untill your 25, but other then that its good money but is hard work....
 
You have to enjoy driving to do it. The thing I like about it is once you leave the depot you're on your own. Cab phones are a pain though, but after 24 years in the Army I would'nt fancy anything else.

You would have to start off on rigids before moving onto artics, and it would be agency work for at least 2 years. Depending on where you are located, pay rates are roughly £9/11 per hour. I work nights, (8 to 14 hours) and I'm home everyday. (usually). The ones you see parked up with the curtains closed are 'Tramping' , they live and sleep in the cab for up to 7 days, a couple of days off, then off again.

It isn't easy but you won't find many who would work at anything else. I think its the semi independence.
 
Hi,

Firstly I thought id post this in GD as I feel its a more apropriate place to talk about a career than motors...

Im looking for advice on this career choice really, and any in-house HGV driver opinions, do you enjoy your job? whats the perks? downsides etc?

Anyway, so Im 21 and stuck in a job I dont enjoy. Ive been thinking for a while that Id like a career in HGV driving.

Ive looked up the training courses and it seems its going to cost a couple of thousand pounds to get my cat C+E (class 1). I understand that before i can get this I need to get my cat c (rigid class 2).


Now, all of these training companys claim that theres always thousands of HGV jobs out there, and there always will be, even in times like these...

But Im not sure how true this is... as I hear of drivers being made redundant etc...

Is there still a big demand for drivers?

any help would be great thanks! :D

Sheesh, trust me, being away from home - no matter what your job is- sucks after a while.
 
I think that the chap on here who works for Eddie Stobbart/Irlams said that the majority of newer drivers start with Agency work and then once they have a few years under their belt they move onto bigger companies.

R420LA6X2/4MNA is the man you're talking about I suspect. I'm afraid I've got no real idea about how to become an HGV driver but he would be able to help I'm sure.
 
As a poster above said it might prove difficult finding work due to your age.

Have you considered a job in one of the supermarket depots (picking etc.)? I know Asda have a scheme ("driving ambition") to get people from the depot into driving jobs and you could be earning a reasonable wage while you're there.

As for job availability it really depends on your location, I've been told by a few agency drivers that they've been made redundant and are lucky to get 3 shifts a week from the agency.
 
The hours are long and the pay is beyond terrible - less than £10 an hour which for a proper career job is pittiful. It's an important job but I dont envy the poor guys who do it.
 
If you are like me (you dislike monotony and consider yourself a people person / socialite), then I couldn't imagine a worse job. Horses for courses, but I really don't envy HGV drivers.
 
'career' isn't really the best term for it, as there isn't exactly a career ladder to work up.

When working as a drivers mate I got a good taste of what the job was really like, long boring 9+hours in the cab driving from one end of the country to the other (with legal rest breaks of course) at 56mph...

The only way the drivers earned decent money was by working a lot of overtime:(
 
Hi,

Firstly I thought id post this in GD as I feel its a more apropriate place to talk about a career than motors...

Im looking for advice on this career choice really, and any in-house HGV driver opinions, do you enjoy your job? whats the perks? downsides etc?

Anyway, so Im 21 and stuck in a job I dont enjoy. Ive been thinking for a while that Id like a career in HGV driving.

Ive looked up the training courses and it seems its going to cost a couple of thousand pounds to get my cat C+E (class 1). I understand that before i can get this I need to get my cat c (rigid class 2).


Now, all of these training companys claim that theres always thousands of HGV jobs out there, and there always will be, even in times like these...

But Im not sure how true this is... as I hear of drivers being made redundant etc...

Is there still a big demand for drivers?

any help would be great thanks! :D

You will need your C1 (7.5ton) Class C (Class2) and Class C+E (Class 1) in that order iirc, and as far as vacancies are concerned, the "thousands of HGV jobs out there" is true absolutely. The trouble is, you'll have no experience and without experience, you'll struggle to drop on a half decent driving job for a while.

This is nothing unusual, I started driving (Having previously sold Cars for Citroen and Computers for Dixons) with a courier company (ANC) driving a Ford transit Luton and slowly progressed to a 7.5 ton Mercedes, I always fancied a go at the bigger rigs so I got my Class 2 in 1997 just after the law changed to stop me going from a Mini to an artic as you could back then!

A few years on Class2 and I got the itch to upgrade again, and in July 2004 I got my LGV1 Artic licence and as far as job enjoyment have not looked back.

As for gaining experience, once you have your Class C, join as many agancys as possibly and turn down nothing - you'll soon be getting regular and varied work as you jump from job to job and you will find yourself picking up small tips & tricks of the job that'll one day pull you out of it years later! :D (assuming you stick it out!) Always remember that learning with an empty unloaded vehicle and passing the test is the easy bit, once you start driving loads around, the lessons really start.

Never be afraid to ask, any driver that has not been there too is a liar. ;) Many rookied screw up by not asking for help, I learned this the hard way, quickly.

Another thing, kiss goodbye to relationships & friendships, they tend to take second fiddle especially if you work away from home, its not so much a job, literally, its a way of living.
I think that the chap on here who works for Eddie Stobbart/Irlams said that the majority of newer drivers start with Agency work and then once they have a few years under their belt they move onto bigger companies.

Thats me. :D And yes. :)


it would do my head in being away from home so much!

Certainly did my marriage in.... :(

Petrol tanker driving is where the money is. Salaries vary, but the big boys are paying over £30k+/year.

I grossed £31k last year but had to do nights and some absurd hours to get it! , it would be fine if you worked 9-5 Monday to friday, alas.....

The hours have always been long in truck driving, it comes with the territory. As long as you can handle the hours and waiting around, enjoy driving, and I mean enjoy it (you'd be amazed how many truckers hate it!) theres harder ways to earn a lot less.


[TW]Fox;14915169 said:
I'm sure I've seen R124 say it's aboutt £7.60 for Stobart?

£7.10 Day Rate, £8.10 night rate, plus £12.15 "Meal allowance" per shift.
 
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A certain supermarket with home delivery pays the van drivers £7.49 which is the basic staff pay plus £1. Requires 4 years driving experience.
 
This is a slightly tounge in cheek summary of Supermarket delivery work for example......

"Mikes picture diary", taken from Trucknet's forum back in 2006.
http://www.trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16480

Mike-C said:
I set my alarm clock for the crack of 9.45am, up dressed and on the road for a 50minute drive to work at Middlewich at 10.30. I get into work and start at 11.30am, the company i work for is a very large grocery retailer whose name i am not at liberty to disclose. I check in with "Kermit", (not his real name, this is to protect his privacy). Here's "Kermit" hard at work;
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I take a seat and wait for my days work to be given to me. It turns out to be a long wait as i end up in the office waiting for 2 and quarter hours on POA. There are other Proffesional HGV operatives in the waiting room with me, waiting like coiled springs for the nod from Kermit and they are ready at a moments notice to be going up the road in a 50ft rig taking a delivery anywhere in the country;
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The company motto is "you shop,we drop" and after a few hours one of our operatives does exactly this, he's a real jobsworth and if the company say it, then he does it;
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Anyway 2.45pm and i've got my job allocated and got the keys to my truck for the day, here it is, nice hey?
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So i fill out my check sheets, check my paperwork, make sure i got my maps etc. and then fit this little beauty in it's cradle in the cab with me;
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Now this is called an "Isotrack" and this little wonder of modern electronic gadgetry will relay all my movements,speed,time spent idling infact everything i do back to Kermit in the office. Progress hey! Anyway, as i'm sorting my stuff out i hears a bang and looks up to see;
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Well who would try to get a trailer in sideways? Typical it could only be a ......
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Stobarts driver!!! Well there he is inspecting for any damage. Whilst i'm busy looking at the pics i took of him, unbeknowns to me he has come over to my cab door and knocked. I got a fright, i wound the window down and he said "thanks", i looked at him suprised, he said "thanks for tooting your horn". I put my thumb up,smiled,nodded and said ok all at the same time and he turned on his heel and went back to his cab. I wasn't sure if he was being funny or not as i never did toot nor did i hear anyone else toot! I spoke to the driver ,who wished to be know as Ivan Milosevec, a short while after he said he was very happy in England and, of interest to those who have asked recently,said Stobarts was a very good company to work for. I bid him farewell and set off to deliver to two retail outlets in the north of England who's exact locations i can't reveal for security reasons. The journey is an uneventful one really, interupted by bursts of the "Irish Turbo" kicking in on the downhill slopes of the M62 taking the speedo to 60mph+ and the weather being cold had seen me turn the heater up. This heat had made me thirsty, and remembering the old adage "never drink from pop bottles you find in your cab" this made me pull into the services on the M62 for a quick BurgerKing meal and a drink. 15 min break and i'm on my way again.I arrive at the first delivery location at 5.10pm and have about 20odd roll cages to deliver. Now some people think roll cages are easy, but they're not. You have to undo a strap. And another tricky thing is getting the "steering"wheels facing the right way and then considering whether to puch or pull, and this has to be done for every cage. I still marvel at the skill the delivery staff have as i watch them manoevre them about with ease, making it look easy.If you thought it was impossible for someone to load boxes of household products onto a roll cage with a shovel then a look at the cages that our warehouse has loaded confirms that it is possible. Just after 6pm and i'm on my way to my second delivery. I take a half hour break before i get there as i need to read the Daily Mail and get my fix of how many immigrants have come in to the country and see what the poloticians are upto etc. 7.50pm and i'm at my second delivery point, again the exact location is secret for security reasons. This time as well as roll cages, i also have to deliver MU's (merchandising units), they are a small four wheel dolly basically and if you can manoevre a jelly on wheels by pushing the jelly bit then you can master the art of MU's. Quick chat to the backdoor man who is actually a buisnessman and gangster and just does this part time(so he tells me) and i'm off on the journey home, down the A1 and back along the M62. Going over the tops on the M62 it got very foggy and visability was not good at all, most of the cars had slowed down to 40mph or less. Now there is nothing i hate worse than selfish drivers, and whilst the cars have very limited visibility, us in trucks can generally see the road ahead more easily and our lights are higher up and tend to go further so instead of undertaking and overtaking the slow cars like the other trucks i seen a poor guy struggling at 40mph in lane two. I got up close to his rear bumper and put my full beam on, this has the effect of enabeling him to see more of the road ahead and we managed to get his top speed upto 50mph. He was very grateful, he was waving out of his window to me with his arm, and his wife in the passenger seat kept looking back at me for reassurance tha i was still there. Once we dropped down the hills and the mist cleared he give me another wave and a toot and he scooted off, now why we all can't help each other more like that i don't know. After such a publicy spirited service i pulled into the services to grab a well earned coffe to go, one of them "costa bomb" ones out the blue machine for nearly two quid. A steal, i don't know who for though. Back at the depot at 11.10pm where i see our trained "ninjas" on the gatehouse;
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These guys are trained to kill, luckily for me, he just wants to write my registration down. I drop my trailer off, just anywhere and quickly so as i don't get a shunter on my case and go and fill up. Well i've had a real party today and a quick look around the cab and it looks like i've had a party in the cab:
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I generally leave this stuff in for the next driver to remove, by the time he has done a couple of trips over to the bin his heart rate will have risen considerably and , little does he realise it but i am actually helping to keep him in shape. Book off with Kermit in the office at 11.30pm and i'm on my way home,leisurley;
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Hope you all enjoyed my day, i know i did!
12hours,113litres of fuel,346kms,2 deliveries and one happy bunny.
:D:D:D





A certain supermarket with home delivery pays the van drivers £7.49 which is the basic staff pay plus £1. Requires 4 years driving experience.

I can well believe it mate but I doubt he'll be doing much more than 40 hours per week.... And trust me, home deliverys can be a nightmare of a job, I spent a few years prior to getting my HGV Licence (Jan 1997) driving for DHL,City Link, ANC (Now Fed-Ex) and a few others doing anything upto 65 deliverys per day.

HGV driving is not a well paid job imo, you simply do lots of hours to get a good wage. I earned more per hour for driving a Ford Fiesta Van when I was working as a courier, back in 1996 than I do in 2009 for driving a 44ton HGV.

The only difference is I do a lot more hours - I am allowed to work 48 hours per week before you take into account breaks and "periods of availability" i.e. waiting time. So you see where the hours come from! :D

Don't get me wrong, for what I do (see post 14 :D ) I think I get a fair rate. I drive decent kit and work for a good employer.

I know a few drivers working in different companies earning considerably more than I, but they are generally the ones expected to speed, "bend" driving hours regs and get a load to its destination regardless of whatever "defect" they may have with their vehicle.....

If I have something as simple as a bulb out on my vehicle, I don't leave the yard until its fixed. we are encouraged to drive slowly, save fuel & wear & tear, take our time (but keep to schedules which are in the main easily achievable) and follow proper procedures i.e. put safety & the reputation of the company first, what more could you want when your paid hourly?

:)

'career' isn't really the best term for it, as there isn't exactly a career ladder to work up.

Tell that to most Transport managers, depot managers and haulage company directors , you'll find the vast majority of them will be ex drivers.

And then theres owner drivers, being your own boss is the top of the ladder for a lot of people.
 
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Erm do you guys think he noticed when he said he wasnt at liberty to say who he works for when theres pictures of trucks with the company name on??
 
Erm do you guys think he noticed when he said he wasnt at liberty to say who he works for when theres pictures of trucks with the company name on??

I think your missing the sarcasm aspect of that post, read it again. ;) :D
 
[TW]Fox;14914840 said:
The hours are long and the pay is beyond terrible - less than £10 an hour which for a proper career job is pittiful. It's an important job but I dont envy the poor guys who do it.

Unfortunately there are hundreds of thousands, perhaps even in the millions on less than this per hour, so its not pitiful, its "very good" per hour.

HGV driving is a crap job though, so is multidrop driving.

I'd steer clear.
 
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