Cars with "hand gearchange...."

I once got to drive a Citroen (a DS21?) which had a gearchange on the steering wheel. It was semi-automatic with the clutch combined with the brake pedal - absolutely weird but a brilliant design. I would love one of those cars :)
 
I doubt if they have produced a torque converter that'll handle 2 - 3000Nm of torque yet...?

Aircraft crash tenders are automatic - I'm certain they have 2000-2500nM of torque

Taken from Wiki

As with a basic fluid coupling the theoretical torque capacity of a converter is proportional to r\,N^2D^5, where r is the mass density of the fluid, N is the impeller speed (rpm), and D is the diameter.[1] In practice, the maximum torque capacity is limited by the mechanical characteristics of the materials used in the converter's components, as well as the ability of the converter to dissipate heat (often through water cooling). As an aid to strength, reliability and economy of production, most automotive converter housings are of welded construction. Industrial units are usually assembled with bolted housings, a design feature that eases the process of inspection and repair, but adds to the cost of producing the converter.
 
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Lots of Japanese market cars come with column change on the standard PRNDL auto transmission. The advantage, if the handbrake is also relocated, is you can have a full width bench seat and 'step through'.
 
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Aircraft crash tenders are automatic - I'm certain they have 2000-2500nM of torque

They are yes, they also often have 2 engines so I am not sure what kind of power linkage they use, it must be a fairly special differential setup (I can ask my Dad when I see him, he will know) however the gearboxes and torque converters are physically massive in them ..not practical for use in most vehicles, I'm not sure if a traditional cab-over HGV could accomodate it tbh ...it'll be something like a big allison unit.

I am not sure of the torque outputs but the most powerful crash-tenders, using 2 engines, are circa 950-1000bhp ...they are designed to move 12k litres + of water and something like 3k litres of foam as quickly as possible to a burning aircraft. Obviously this makes them heavy, so you an imagine the power and the torque that is required to shift this lot quickly.
 
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They are yes, they also often have 2 engines so I am not sure what kind of power linkage they use, it must be a fairly special differential setup (I can ask my Dad when I see him, he will know) however the gearboxes and torque converters are physically massive in them ..not practical for use in most vehicles, I'm not sure if a traditional cab-over HGV could accomodate it tbh ...it'll be something like a big allison unit.

I'm pretty sure its size limitations as Moeks suggests, plus, I'd argue something like an aircraft tug is still not going to experience the sort of life an average HGV's transmission would be subjected to, I'm fairly sure reliability would be a big issue also.
 
It's not the tugs we were talking about actually, its the fire-engines they use at airports, the big wide 6 or eight wheeled crash-tenders, much larger and more heavy duty than the tugs.
 
It's not the tugs we were talking about actually, its the fire-engines they use at airports, the big wide 6 or eight wheeled crash-tenders, much larger and more heavy duty than the tugs.

Ahh!

Something like this....

http://www.scania.com.au/about-scania/media/press-releases/press-release-3.aspx

Scania at the Perth Truck Show 24-26 July

Western Australian truck fans will be treated to a unique experience on the Scania Australia stand at the Perth Truck Show that runs from July 24-26.

The star of the show will be a brand new Airport Crash Tender, built on a Scania 6x6 chassis and powered by a 480hp six-cylinder engine.

It has a huge R Series Crew Cab that seats two fire-fighters up front, three across the back and the situation commander is seated between the two rows with full control of the water cannon.

Top speed is an ungoverned 148km/h and the water cannon is specified to be able to fire water 65m from the vehicle while travelling at full speed. To achieve this, a Scania five-cylinder 9-litre engine is mounted on the back of the truck, just to power the cannon.

The Scania can be driven on the public roads unlike the older units it is designed to replace which can only be driven within the confines of airfields. The 6x6 configuration also means it can cope with any terrain on its way to rescue pilots or passengers.
 

Yep, also the http://iveco-magirus.net/index.cfm?show=product&prod_id=86 Superdragon 8x8 is a mean machine. Also the Rosenbauer Panther http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Altenburg-Nobitz_Airport_Rosenbauer_Panther.jpg

The company my Dad used to work for, before setting up himself was heavily involved in the reinforced piercing nozzles called Snozzles, used on airport crash-tenders. I'm not sure it was the development so much as they marketing and distribution to the UK market, I'll have to ask him tbh.
 
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R420LA6X2/4MNA, this is a slightly off topic question, but how do you not fall asleep whilst driving all day?

60 minutes on a motorway and I have to pull over to rest my eyes. I get so sleepy! :(
 
The old Toyota Supra tiptronic had buttons on the front n back of the steering wheel for shifting up/down, I prefer just pulling the gear stick forwards/backwards to shift in semi-automatics though
 
R420LA6X2/4MNA, this is a slightly off topic question, but how do you not fall asleep whilst driving all day?

60 minutes on a motorway and I have to pull over to rest my eyes. I get so sleepy! :(

years of getting used to it I suppose.

I regularly drive my maximum 4.5 hour drive prior to a break, and then sleep like a baby when i stop for said break.

Practice makes perfect, back in the day when i first passed, I could not get past Hilton park Svcs (from Stoke) without a break, these days, I'll run from Stoke to Thurrock and not give it a thought.

My sleep pattern is a disaster though.....
 
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