Case closed: parts ordered.

ExoMale

ExoMale

ExoMale

Soldato
Joined
9 Jan 2016
Posts
3,727
Location
Derbyshire
time was getting on an things were going to take longer to arrive, so i ordered these last night.

Aorus pro wifi itx
2600
sugo sg 13
240gb wdg m.2 ssd

i wanted the nano s itx case, but wouldve taken over a week to arrive and the 2600 will be here by end of week whereas the rest tomorrow, so didnt want to wait.

im sure £345 wont have been wasted :cool:
 
Last edited:
thanks for replies.

yeah the m.2 slot is on the bottom, but given my b350m gaming pro has it on the top i wouldnt have a clue how it would be overall, the idea of the m.2 drive of that size is to eliminate the use of cables and all the cases like the sugo i listed appear to be the smallest cases that will accommodate my power supply and graphics card and so they just happen to require mini itx boards.. i was looking at the AVP Hyperion EV33B case as its m-atx and cube, but like the thermaltake V21 it will be bulky, eventually the computer will end up on a desk.


the 2600 would be better and cheaper by what ive been seeing, but people on here suggest a 2700 when people are gaming also and while i was looking at them, the 1700 is cheaper to buy, the 1200 in my system is the weak link and with this build im planning, i want it to be long term so im happy with it, but if the likely hood of games not using more than 6 cores for awhile then i shall get the 2600, i just dont want to pass up on 8 cores if i dont need to.


i already own the RX 570, so changing that card isnt going to happen, its not worth much on the used market plus if i did change it and stuck to amd, id just go straight for the vega.



i wont be starting to buy till least next month, but im not one for best of the best and all that as youd gather ha..
 
The one thing I would be worried about with that board is the M2 drive's temps. These things can get very warm and being on the back of the board with very little or no airflow over it and being right between the cpu socket and chipset and the rear vrm's nearby I would worry that the drive will cook. I imagine it will be even worse if it's in a small case with very little space and airflow.
 
pastymuncher said:
The one thing I would be worried about with that board is the M2 drive's temps. These things can get very warm and being on the back of the board with very little or no airflow over it and being right between the cpu socket and chipset and the rear vrm's nearby I would worry that the drive will cook. I imagine it will be even worse if it's in a small case with very little space and airflow.
Click to expand...

negative airflow might be the best way in a case and components like the above... but then the dust :(

thats the length of your PSU @ExoMale
 
 
lee32uk said:
Go with a cheaper SATA SSD and get the R7 2700 instead ?


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £734.65 (includes shipping: £11.70)
​
Click to expand...

This is sensible, you won't notice any difference in games between the SSD / M2.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
negative airflow might be the best way in a case and components like the above... but then the dust :(

thats the length of your PSU @ExoMale
Click to expand...

150mm, so pretty standard size i guess. mean ideally after my elite 110 case i dont particularly want a case where the power supply fits above the motherboard, that sugo is big enough for my rx 570 and small enough for what i want overall.


lee32uk said:
Go with a cheaper SATA SSD and get the R7 2700 instead ?


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £734.65 (includes shipping: £11.70)
​
Click to expand...


thanks for that. well i was looking at the 2700, but figured with not too much difference in performance then the 1700 was better value, but if the 2600 is better than the 1700 then would the 2700 even be worth the extra £100 or so?

the m.2 drive was to eliminate cables so i could get away with a smaller case and not faff with cable management.

Webzta said:
This is sensible, you won't notice any difference in games between the SSD / M2.
Click to expand...

thanks for reply. well i wasnt worried about the performance difference, it was just that the idea of this is to have a single drive in a small case and figured because my psu is fully modular, i dont need to use cables i dont need.

orbitalwalsh said:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/raijintek-ophion-mini-itx-case-black-ca-03u-rt.html

If no real budget :)

Should hold your PSU nicely
Click to expand...

well keeping my psu and my graphics card and maybe my 8gb ram stick im hoping to keep costs down, however i dont know if i would justify that sort of pricing for a case although that looks really nice.
 
You'll like ryzen 3000... So go with your wallet haha :)

Check see how games you play react with ryzen 6 and 8 core. Most of the time 4c/8t - 6c/6t-12 is the sweet spot . And speed being the key factor
 
Last edited:
ExoMale said:
thanks for that. well i was looking at the 2700, but figured with not too much difference in performance then the 1700 was better value, but if the 2600 is better than the 1700 then would the 2700 even be worth the extra £100 or so?

the m.2 drive was to eliminate cables so i could get away with a smaller case and not faff with cable management.
Click to expand...

I guess it depends if you want the extra cores from the off. Other option is go with the R5 2600 and then upgrade to a better cpu if needed in 2020 or later.

You are paying an extra £90 though for the NVMe SSD and you won't really notice a difference in day to day usage. If you are set on an M.2 NVMe then the Gigabyte board has a heatsink over the M.2 slot so it should reduce/stop any throttling issues.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
You'll like ryzen 3000... So go with your wallet haha :)

Check see how games you play react with ryzen 6 and 8 core. Most of the time 4c/8t - 6c/6t-12 is the sweet spot . And speed being the key factor
Click to expand...

well to be fair i dont follow the new tech like you guys, but with how long it took me to get as far as ryzen 1st gen ha, im not going to worry about the 3000 lot, i will have a bit of time to plan this build unlike all my other purchases lol, but i still dont want to spend too much overall, the idea is to have something separate for my general use/storage/basic video editing and my intent to keep looking in to music production/design along side this, so cheaper the better for how often i will play games when im back to it ;).

as for game checking, i would only be able to go via videos on youtube etc, i know how my 1200 performed with the rx 570 and i got told id need atleast a 1400 to improve my gaming if i was to continue to play BF:V and similar, so figured i might as well aim for the 6 core once and for all if nothing higher.

lee32uk said:
I guess it depends if you want the extra cores from the off. Other option is go with the R5 2600 and then upgrade to a better cpu if needed in 2020 or later.

You are paying an extra £90 though for the NVMe SSD and you won't really notice a difference in day to day usage. If you are set on an M.2 NVMe then the Gigabyte board has a heatsink over the M.2 slot so it should reduce/stop any throttling issues.
Click to expand...

well i was thinking the 2700 as it will last longer and likely not give me this urge to keep changing stuff, but then the more things costs the longer it will take and im an impatient person as you might have gathered over time ha and so the 2600 is more appealing on price, i buy more latest games on xbox one, so i dont know how much benefit id make out from either, i just want to make right choices this time :D.

well im not set on nmve per say, i just know its a faster drive, id happily spend under £150 on a 1tb WDB ssd version given im happy with my kingspec, as its the only drive i want in this i wanted to make sure its a worthwhile one, but yes given the small price difference i am swapping to the arorus board if it means better plus the m.2 drive is on top which makes more sense.

pastymuncher said:
The one thing I would be worried about with that board is the M2 drive's temps. These things can get very warm and being on the back of the board with very little or no airflow over it and being right between the cpu socket and chipset and the rear vrm's nearby I would worry that the drive will cook. I imagine it will be even worse if it's in a small case with very little space and airflow.
Click to expand...

one thing i didnt consider was heat as i dont know how hot my kingspec gets despite in a big case, however the case isnt full decided yet, i keep seeing so many small cases like what oribital linked or smaller still in a different layout and as such im debating whether to replace my psu with a corsair SF450 or a sfx in general for better airflow.
 
ExoMale said:
One thing i didnt consider was heat as i dont know how hot my kingspec gets despite in a big case, however the case isnt full decided yet, i keep seeing so many small cases like what oribital linked or smaller still in a different layout and as such im debating whether to replace my psu with a corsair SF450 or a sfx in general for better airflow.
Click to expand...

Changing the psu won't change the fact that the drive will still be on the rear of that Asrock motherboard between three hotspots and little to no airflow to cool it. Actually, before I continued I just looked up the case you are considering and the drive will have no airflow at all on the rear of that board. It will most likely cook itself and throttle. In a tight case like that I would prefer the drive to be conventionally mounted on the motherboard preferably with a heatsink on it and some airflow over it.

That Gigabyte Aorus B450-i has it's own problems though. In every review I have looked at they comment on the vrm heatsink running extremely hot, especially when overclocking, not good in a case with limited airflow.
 
pastymuncher said:
Changing the psu won't change the fact that the drive will still be on the rear of that Asrock motherboard between three hotspots and little to no airflow to cool it. Actually, before I continued I just looked up the case you are considering and the drive will have no airflow at all on the rear of that board. It will most likely cook itself and throttle. In a tight case like that I would prefer the drive to be conventionally mounted on the motherboard preferably with a heatsink on it and some airflow over it.

That Gigabyte Aorus B450-i has it's own problems though. In every review I have looked at they comment on the vrm heatsink running extremely hot, especially when overclocking, not good in a case with limited airflow.
Click to expand...


thanks for reply. i didnt even look at the position of the motherboard if all fairness and i was only looking at that case because it seems more open where the motherboard be if im understanding the layout otherwise i was looking at the SG13B because its cheaper despite its tight quarters, im yet to experience a bottom supported m.2 drive whether its amd or intel, i suppose in my case i would like the m.2 drive to be anywhere other than under my gpu cooler like on the b350m gaming pro as i prefer as much easy access to my drives as possible.


anyways(to all) things have taken a sudden change, im getting my office space back which means the build be pushed forward starting from monday, so forgetting the m.2 drive upgrade to retain my current drive setup for now, i will have £300 to play with, so at the moment ive got 2 choices. everything is based through prime for now.

option 1 - 2600 + arorus itx board + SG13b = £310
option 2 - 2600 + Msi B450M Pro-M2 + Raijintek Styx = £293

so i am actually leaning more towards the m-atx setup and save an itx build of some kind as my secondary system which will be less demanding. however the m-atx build isnt final, i cant add much beyond the £300 in this instance, but i havent found a better case than the styx that is smaller or cheaper, the motherboard is to fit within budget, but the 2600 is a definite :D.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom