Champions League & Europa League Draw

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 16:30

The CL draw started about 45 minutes ago and like all UEFA draws, they still haven't drawn a single ****ing team yet!

Looking at the Pots, it's actually easier being in Pot 2 than Pot 1.

edit:
Group A: Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid, Red Bull Salzburg, Lokomotiv Moscow
Group B: Real Madrid, Shakhtar Donetsk, Inter Milan, Borussia Monchengladbach
Group C: Porto, Man City, Olympiakos, Marseille
Group D: Liverpool, Ajax, Atalanta, Midtjylland
Group E: Sevilla, Chelsea, Krasnodar, Rennes
Group F: Zenit St Petersburg, Borussia Dortmund, Lazio, Club Bruges
Group G: Juventus, Barcelona, Dynamo Kiev, Ferencvaros
Group H: Paris St-Germain, Man Utd, RB Leipzig, Istanbul Basaksehir

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 16:48

Ajax will do nicely, in fact that's probably the nicest team we could have hoped for.

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 16:57

Tombstone said:
Would be happy with anyone from Pot 3 except Inter, Krasnodar and Kiev.

I don't believe we can get Kiev as Shakhtar are already on our side of the draw. For the similar reasons Inter and Krasnodar can only go in pots A-D so we 've got a 50-50 chance of getting one of those.

edit: scrap that, it doesn't look like Russian TV care about games between Krasnodar and Zenit clashing.

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 17:00

Very tricky draw for Utd.

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 17:06

I really don't like this thing were certain teams can't be on the same side of the draw just because TV networks don't want their games being shown at the same time. It's meant to be a completely random draw but Inter could only go into Real's group at the end because they can't be on TV at the same time as Juve. Same story with Utd, they could only go into PSG's group in the end because they couldn't be shown on the same day as Liverpool.

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 17:15

We've done well out of this draw. There was about a 65% chance we'd draw Lokomotiv or Marseille but have dodged both of them.

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 17:19

I kind of hoped we wouldn't draw them so I wouldn't have to try and spell their name.

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 17:24

Group A: Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid, Red Bull Salzburg, Lokomotiv Moscow
Group B: Real Madrid, Shakhtar Donetsk, Inter Milan, Borussia Monchengladbach
Group C: Porto, Man City, Olympiakos, Marseille
Group D: Liverpool, Ajax, Atalanta, Midtjylland
Group E: Sevilla, Chelsea, Krasnodar, Rennes
Group F: Zenit St Petersburg, Borussia Dortmund, Lazio, Club Bruges
Group G: Juventus, Barcelona, Dynamo Kiev, Ferencvaros
Group H: Paris St-Germain, Man Utd, RB Leipzig, Istanbul Basaksehir

Tombstone said:
Call them, Mitties

It's the d in there that bugs me, then the tjy! What kind of name is that.

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 17:52

Shamikebab said:
Well they beat Spurs and Atletico without Werner and that was before even getting a replacement.

They're still a very good team that will cause most sides problems but losing Werner is a blow. They've always been a side that's better than the sum of it's parts however Werner was the one genuinely top class attacking player they had. Without him you can see them playing a lot of good football and dominating games but not turning that into wins as much as before. You only have to look at the Brighton game at the weekend to see the difference good finishing has on results - if Brighton replicate that performance another 10 times they might win 5 or 6 times but if you stick a better striker in their side they'd win it 9 times out of 10.

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 18:03

Mark1989 said:
We got the easier draw compared to the others in my view, Ajax could be tricky but I'd expect results from rest of teams

We've got pretty much the easiest draw we could have hoped for. We've avoided all the difficult sides from each pot and all the long journeys too. If you were being really picky you might have hoped for Salzburg over Atalanta now that they've lost Minamino, Haaland and one or two others but who knows who they've got coming through now.

BaZ87 · 1 Oct 2020 at 18:11

UEFA have given the green light for home supporters to attend all matches, up to 30% of capacity, subject to local laws. With a few European Leagues already having some supporters back and plans for more, PL sides are going to be disadvantaged with little prospect of them being allowed any supporters in during the group stage games.

BaZ87 · 2 Oct 2020 at 14:23

Sorry Rob. I didn't forget about the Europa, I just had no idea when the draw was as they were still playing qualifiers yesterday.