Change of Shift in work

[tidusjar]

My misses has had her shift pattern changed at work recently (Disabled children care worker).

Now we are going on holidays on the 27th until 1st. She was off on 27,28,29 and booked the 30th and the 1st off work.

Now because her new shift she is suppose to be working on 27,28,29. She can't because we are going on holidays, she didn't know about the shift change until after she booked it off.

Anything she can do?

 

[tidusjar]

Has she talked to her manager about this?

should have put that in OP sorry,

She has spoken to her manager but he is basically saying she cannot take the weekend off because she has taken too much time off lately. So she will have to take it off unpaid basically.

Does she work full time? Days booked off as 'holiday days' are booked in advance and are therefore non-changeable, certainly at my workplace (where shift changes occur frequently).

Yes she does and that is what is it like at my workplace (without the shift changes).

 

[tidusjar]

I don't understand what they are saying.



Doesn't she have a set amount of leave to take in a year? Has she gone over her leave allowance? If so, the manager is being nice letting her have it unpaid (although he shouldn't have approved it).



That's very dodgy ground though, and I don't think it'd stand up to much scrutiny if an employer has allowed for time off and an employee has booked a holiday, for example.

Because she has quite a bit of holidays to take she has taken the past 5 weekend off. She still has some days left. Because she has taken quite a bit of her allowed holiday in the space of 2months they are saying she has taken too much time off. She still has holiday left.

I think I haven't clearly said whats wrong,

Now I thought she would be able to carry on with her planned and approved holiday after the shift change. It was approved but because she is now not working the days she has taken off .

So it was like this:

Friday - Off
Saturday - Off
Sunday - Off
Monday - On (Took holiday)
Tuesday - On (Took holiday).

Now it's like this

Friday - On
Saturday - On
Sunday - On
Monday - Off
Tuesday - Off

Because of this now she is working on the weekend we cannot go away. We had booked our holiday before the shift change but because she was previously not working on the Fri,Sat and Sun she did not need to book her holiday for that, only for the Monday and Tuesday.

Hope that has cleared things up a bit.

 

[tidusjar]

ok first thing first

Has she been offered the ability to still take the the time off paid or unpaid.

Nope not really, she needs to find cover was the answer and there is no cover available for then. So her only option is to take time off unpaid.

If you are not scheduled to be working Friday, Saturday and Sunday why on earth would you use your holiday days for then? If you presume you will not be working then, you wouldn't book them as holidays!

My thoughts exactly.

 

[tidusjar]

When you say that, do you mean she would have to call in sick or just refuse to attend? Obviously that wouldn't look good for her.

Either. I know...

 

[tidusjar]

Well, that sucks.

Grievance procedure is probably the only way forward to be honest, other than taking the hit or gambling with taking sick days.

Disgusting management, to be frank. I can't fathom how people expect their staff to react in situations like this.

She doesn't work in retail by any chance, does she?

Disabled children care worker.

In the future, it's always best to "book" the entire Holliday period off. If shifts change regular, that way management know you won't be in, even though you aren't booking those days off.

In our place, we put a slip in and we just include every day we need off. Management then look at the Rosta and only deduct the days needed from your AL allowance. Well that's the simplistic view. As it depends when you put AL in, as if its close enough they can't change shifts with out our permission.

I think i'll have to suggest that to her. Currently she's screwed... Just wanted everyone's opinion to see if her management is being a ****, as i suspected.

I don't think she is going to be there much longer anyway.

 

[tidusjar]

You should always book off your full holiday not just the days you are working so this can't happen.

It does look like the management are failing to do their job so I would personally take it to grievence and this would get somebody else to decide on the out come.

Believe me I feel for you I have seen this happen many time and it is harsh.

Please don't take sick or just not turn up this will just agrivate the situation and that action could end up in her job been put on the line.

Try the grievence procedure and see how that goes before you take more drastic action.

Thanks for the information, i'll suggest this to her later and then bump the thread.